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Disco duck
Member Since: 11 Nov 2009
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Hmm wonder if this roof will have same prob
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
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According to LR..................yes. And it won't be their fault.  "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both- and deserve neither"
Thomas Jefferson.
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| Sat Aug 07 2010 10:35am |
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MELISCAT
Member Since: 17 Dec 2009
Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
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lee157 wrote:Very interesting, the only difference between yours and mine is i have the glass roof, but the fixing points for the roof rails are completely different and span a wider area. On the glass roof the rails actually sit on the 3 mounting points aprox 5mm above the gutter.
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Hi Lee could you please email me your VIN number as I intend to write to Landrover Mike
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| Mon Aug 09 2010 8:58am |
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MELISCAT
Member Since: 17 Dec 2009
Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
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Hi folks, I have sent a letter off to Landrover along with the photographs in an attempt to get a full reply from them with regard to roof rails, fittings, racks and vehicle roof loads.
I will post their reply .....if I get one. Mike
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| Wed Aug 11 2010 5:15pm |
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MELISCAT
Member Since: 17 Dec 2009
Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
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The letter has gone "registered" so they cannot deny getting it. Mike
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| Wed Aug 11 2010 5:16pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
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It will be interesting to see what they have to say. "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both- and deserve neither"
Thomas Jefferson.
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| Wed Aug 11 2010 10:22pm |
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Camel110
Member Since: 02 May 2010
Location: Derbyshire
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This is putting me off a D3... Particuarly the size of the bill to correct damage like this. Is Mike the only person to have suffered this?
I doubt its overloading as such that has caused the problem. It will be either the car/rack not flexing together (which I would have thought would have caused more visible damage) or fatigue (you will be amazed the damage high cycle fatigue can do will small loads).
Interesting the difference in fittings...
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| Mon Aug 16 2010 9:04pm |
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CG
Member Since: 12 Nov 2007
Location: In the middle somewhere
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MELISCAT wrote:The letter has gone "registered" so they cannot deny getting it.
That will be interesting if you get a answer. We have been working on L358 as LR are getting stretch in the roof rail bolts when the roof in heavy loaded and off road, the rail is then moving. seeing the effort on this, and on problems on Freelander leakage before that I cannot believe the nuts you had where correct fitment,
The captive system is correct on all vehicles I have worked on, (LR,Jag Mercedes etc) I will when I get the opportunity speak to the LR fastener standards engineer I will see what he says although I doubt he knows about it. Formerly shiny moose
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| Mon Aug 16 2010 9:30pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
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I think Mike is the only one with the problem as far as I know. I think he is also the only one with those fixing points, all who have looked have found theirs to be the ones with the load spreading plate.
It is LRs (and dealers) attitude that stinks on this one I think. "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both- and deserve neither"
Thomas Jefferson.
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| Mon Aug 16 2010 9:35pm |
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CG
Member Since: 12 Nov 2007
Location: In the middle somewhere
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I am very surprised no water leaks have occurred in that bolted joint. lucky the roof lining is not wreaked. Formerly shiny moose
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| Mon Aug 16 2010 9:53pm |
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MELISCAT
Member Since: 17 Dec 2009
Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
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Repair photos: 2 bolts have been fitted to the front rail fixing.
All the plated areas have then been covered with soun deadening material.
I am still awaiting a reply from Landrover
The roof load weight of 75kg has been confirmed by an article in February 2010 Issue of LRO. I quote; " There are plenty of roof racks to choose from, but you may want to get one as light as possible, bearing in mind that maximum roof load is just 75kg - a roof rack and three 20-litre jerry cans of fuel will come close to this figure, if not exceed it." Mike
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| Tue Aug 17 2010 2:54pm |
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JF Lux
Member Since: 08 Sep 2007
Location: A little country in Europe
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MELISCAT wrote:"bearing in mind that maximum roof load is just 75kg - a roof rack and three 20-litre jerry cans of fuel will come close to this figure, if not exceed it."
 oh s  t...I think I need to weigh the stuff I'll be loading for the holidays...
I'm glad I followed this thread.
Good luck with pursuing LR The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
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| Tue Aug 17 2010 4:42pm |
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MELISCAT
Member Since: 17 Dec 2009
Location: Macclesfield, Cheshire
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Yes it is a bit of a worry for us all Mike
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| Tue Aug 17 2010 6:14pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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work friend has a Citreon car with a roof load of 90KG  Tow bar, roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit.
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| Tue Aug 17 2010 7:41pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 02 Jul 2006
Location: Sydney
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Manufacturers always quote conservative figures. In Oz these vehicles are used for ouback touring often by grey nomads with much higher loads on them and there have been no issues that I know of. I still think this is a one off.
The figure given by LR will be a worst case scenario more likely related to overturning with a load on and nothing in the cabin counteract it. "A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both- and deserve neither"
Thomas Jefferson.
TDV6: Adaptive Headlights, Electronic Rear Diff, ARB Bar, Blaupunkt Speakers, JVC Powered Subwoofer, Removable Snorkel, Mitchell Bros Tow Hitch, Pioneer After Market Head Unit, Zenarc Touch Screen, In Car Sub-notebook, GPS Anntenna, Steering Wheel Control Adaptor, Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| Wed Aug 18 2010 12:04am |
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