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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 2581
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...bet you never knew this existed!
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wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
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Well, no, but it IS the same vehicle feature that the LR dealer told me to carry the transmission oil sample in on my way to the transmission people... in a plastic cup... spilling prohibited by duct tape.
Wiljo Two D3 V8 HSE Auto in Zermatt silver - one for the driveway, one for the living room cupboard.
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| Mon Aug 22 2011 6:37pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: in my own space
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I don't have one of these in my D4 
I keep saying the D4 is not as practical as the D3 .....
.... and this goes some way to prove it!!
But on the plus side, now a damn good reason for not buying swmbo flowers
If I could think of anything intelligent, poignant or witty, I'd put it here !!!
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1972 Morphy Richards hairdryer 650w
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Exclusive Club Original "Fuji Landmark"
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| Mon Aug 22 2011 7:30pm |
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euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
Location: borders
Posts: 1374
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Ronp
On a serious note
I have followed with interest your posts with regard to comparisons between the D3 and D4.....to my mind the whole "go beyond" ethos of the D3 has been lost.
Surely the whole point of any Land Rover is its useability and practicality....correct me if I am wrong,but you seem to think both those attributes have been lost,or at least diluted, in the new incarnation ?
ps If I'm wrong,I won't be sending flowers,as you won't have any way of transporting them Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught.
Winston Churchill
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| Mon Aug 22 2011 7:40pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: in my own space
Posts: 9080
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Yes If I could think of anything intelligent, poignant or witty, I'd put it here !!!
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1972 Morphy Richards hairdryer 650w
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Exclusive Club Original "Fuji Landmark"
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| Mon Aug 22 2011 10:28pm |
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albal
Member Since: 31 Jul 2011
Location: Southampton
Posts: 153
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Nice one, will make those VW owners envious who can only carry one flower in their beetle.
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| Mon Aug 22 2011 10:52pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Halifax, West Yorkshire
Posts: 1304
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euangibson wrote:Ronp......On a serious note................the whole "go beyond" ethos of the D3 has been lost........Surely the whole point of any Land Rover is its useability and practicality....correct me if I am wrong,but you seem to think both those attributes have been lost,or at least diluted, in the new incarnation......
You would like to think & perhaps hope that a product gets "better" as it goes the product cycle of early adopter, mture product etc....problems are sorted....isssues are dealt with...customers / users are listened to...
This doesnt seem the case with LandRover.....marketing who decide what we have to have make the decisions.........what was good is now not as good.
I am bitterly dissapointed what was a do anything vehicle that was durable & at home on country roads bad conditions has now been tarted up with bling (painted wheels arches, bumpers) had significant things taken out (rear AC entirely) other parts that were standard are now at cost - optional.
I realise that LandRover have to keep the product fresh to make a business - but this shouldnt be at the cost of losing or disappointing customers (some of those long standing & loyal...through bad times when product was crap). but not at the expense of dumbing down whilst blinging up what was a superb product & distancing potential customers.
I did & was considering changing to a D4 (cant say upgrading as it clearly isnt an upgrade) & thought again that a change was a retrograde step where I ended up with a dented bank balance (far too costly), an inferior vehicle (in my opinion) with only the dealer getting the profit & the recipient "gaining"my old car.
Seriously considering the New VWToureg (the one with Low Ration & all the options)...... I havent actually seen one in the flesh yet....... ....have Disco3 HSE TD6 Auto...winter mobile
....also Jag XK......the economy 5.0 litre one...I'm REALLY smitten with this
....& have a Freelander 2 SE Auto...realistic runabout....
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| Tue Aug 23 2011 7:51am |
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chalky
Member Since: 22 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1004
 
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I've posted on a similar vein in another thread with regards to swapping mine for a D4
Whilst I can see the allure of the new front end and engine displacement being upped to 3.0 there is not much else that makes me want a D4, I've said this before a dozen times ! Having crossed over from the Defender 2 forum upgrading to a D3 still has me grinning like a Cheshire cat, 18 months of ownership and I'm still not looking for a change !
The new Tourag however !!!!!!
Only time will tell,
I reckon I could hang on in till the new defender actually arrives ! the D4, too much at the minute for me. Only dead fish go with the Flow !
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| Tue Aug 23 2011 9:46am |
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fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 381
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Wait for D5 using same floorpan as new R/R & SPORT.
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| Thu Aug 25 2011 9:47pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 27006
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[quote="BLFarrar"]euangibson wrote:
I am bitterly dissapointed what was a do anything vehicle that was durable & at home on country roads bad conditions has now been tarted up with bling (painted wheels arches, bumpers) had significant things taken out (rear AC entirely) other parts that were standard are now at cost - optional.
There's a strong possibility that the new Defender prototype being shown in Germany next week will be based on the D3/4 platform so hopefully that will hand back some rough and ready requirements those that miss it on the disco  Existential Phenomenologist.
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| Thu Aug 25 2011 9:55pm |
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PdP
Member Since: 20 Jun 2011
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 25
 
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chalky wrote:The new Tourag however !!!!!!
Don't get too excited about the Toureg, new or old. The spare wheel setup is a disaster, unless you get an old one with a rear mounted spare carrier bracket - which I was told, the new ones can't have.
I came close to buying a Toureg but changed my mind when the sales rep couldn’t tell me what I should do with the flat tyre once I'd replaced it with the spare that is stored deflated (under the back floorboard to save space) and needs to be inflated 
The flat tyre doesn't fit into the hole left by the spare and you have to make a plan with it - which is a problem if it's wet and muddy, and the boot is full of your camping gear... 
A truly brilliant piece of German engineering… 
Cheers
Peter
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