Gerrit van zyl
Member Since: 19 Jan 2012
Location: Centurion
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I am faced with the most significant Disco decision. It is imposible to drive a disco and not have thought about maintanance cost, motorplans and quarentee plans... even if you have a different strategy it would help to know what you can expect.. (if you are a bit ignorant like myself chances are good that you will get an awakening.. (Mine was a steering rack plus suspention)
On the forum you will find lots of good and bad stories explaining what went wrong, what it cost etc. You can even found websites focus on horrer stories.
BUT
Where do i found data to really make an informed decision? From this data we should be able to make conclusions like...
1) 0 to 25,000 km
- 80% of disco's will have no unplanned breakdowns..
- 15% will have minor less than R5,000 issues(covered by standard plan)
- 5% .....
2) 25,000 to 50,000
3) 50,000 to 75,000
4) 75,000 to 100,000
etc..
63% of forum people are data driven with spreadsheets monitoring fuel consumption and tracking maintenance.. any thoughts? (personally I will like these stats to counter landrover jokes around the campfire)
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
Posts: 1441
 
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I don't think you could ever make a convincing case to buy one based on statistical data. You need to put your head in a box and buy with your heart; if you want one, buy one.... Graham
Formerly known as Antoniasdad
TDV6 Discovery 3 XS in Stornoway Grey / Alpaca
GONE: TDV8 FFRR Vogue in Stornoway Grey / Jet
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 8:33am |
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mad max
Member Since: 28 Jan 2010
Location: braintree essex
Posts: 214
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Hi most people buy land rover's with there heart  Not there head ?? 
regards
ken
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 10:03am |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: Berks
Posts: 2831
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all cars break m8 including LRs some more some less and no statistical studies would tell you what and when would break on yers
it depend on how you use it where you use it and all
get one enjoy it as much as you can and think of issues when they are actually present
me 2p
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 10:51am |
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LR-Spy
Member Since: 08 Dec 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 21
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I agree with some of the posts here - you buy a LR with your heart.
I am on my second LR (now an RRS) but I bought knowing they are not the most reliable cars in the world. I have already mentally resigned myself to the fact that things may go wrong and I will need to ensure I can afford to fix them (LR warranty helps alay some of these fears but not all).
If after owning it for a couple of years it turns out to be more reliable than I expected, I will be extremely happy. If not, at least there are no surprises.
Why did I do this, because I love the look of them, I love the majestic driving height and I love that special feeling you get when opening the door and sitting in the car. All things I didn't quite feel when driving the more reliable competitors.
As regards the DIsco 3, it also has the benefit of being one of the most spacious and practical 4x4 cars in production.
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 11:05am |
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mad max
Member Since: 28 Jan 2010
Location: braintree essex
Posts: 214
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also dont forget that big   smile
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 1:32pm |
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Fabio
Member Since: 03 Sep 2011
Location: somerset
Posts: 88
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I agree with the other posts.
i had the same doubts but after doing about 9000km in 3months and 6500 in 2 weeks i m happy with my decision to buy one.
It is the best Vehicle i have ever owned.
Try to buy one with warranty and you will be ok. 
Fabio
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 3:56pm |
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irishrover
Member Since: 18 Aug 2008
Location: The Treaty County
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ok because im a saddo, im going to give this bit of information based on my 4 years of ownership and costs to my pocket to date. well % of the costs. i dare not give any figures
as the guys say above, you buy a LR for what it is so enjoy it, the rest will look after itself!
Tyres - 36.5%
Servicing - 37%
Maintenance - 26.5%
i have no fuel costs!
Ian. The Paddy in Poland!
07 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial (Java Black) with:
Silver Centre Grill
Side Sports Tubes
18's
Xenons & LED Side Lights
A-Bar with RLD top mounts
Roo-Lites
Clean M.A.P Sensor
Club 178k km's
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 5:22pm |
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MarsKy
Member Since: 23 Dec 2011
Location: Lanarkshire
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Look on the Toyota forums - there are plenty of Landcruiser engines with short lifes.
Even the usually reliable RAV4 (and I've had two) - Toyota are replacing the early T180 engines, and I know someone who is replacing theirs again after just 7000 miles.
Probably why Toyota have agreed to source BMW engines.
You hear all the stories about taking Land Rovers if you want to go into the outback, and taking Toyotas if you want to come back. It ain't necessarily so.
If Land Rovers and Range Rovers were really so bad, would they still be in business selling £30-60k+ vehicles?
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 5:32pm |
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ron3005
Member Since: 15 Mar 2010
Location: isleworth
Posts: 235
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you do buy with youre heart but also remember forums for any car are all about problems you get the odd post about no problems 99% of people on the forums will tell you how much they love their car and its true SOO BUY ONE
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 6:30pm |
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Niall
Member Since: 30 Jul 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 68
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I'm on my 3rd Land Rover; Disco 2, Defender TD5 then my Disco 3. They were all bought with my heart, but with a little nod to practicality too!
The bottom line is that you need to know what you're getting yourself into. They're great vehicles, but like any complex car they have faults. I think being on this forum gives you a heads-up as to problems you may encounter, and if you understand why some symptoms occur there are often ways to tolerate or work around them.
I can't remember whose signature on here states that Land Rover makes drivers into mechanics, but I've found it true - equally (as I touch wood..  ) I've never been stuck at the side of a road with any of my land rovers... They've all had faults, but nothing that's stopped me getting where I wanted to go.
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 6:53pm |
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Dan_NL
Member Since: 19 Sep 2010
Location: Terminal moraines of the central Netherlands
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About a year ago, in the midle of the glycol/gearbox saga, front/rear diffs  , tranfer boxes etc, I tried to convince members to put a [partially blanked] VIN number with their postings  . This was to eventually be able to track faults with VIN numbers and so be able to see what was "due"... I think about 5 members did so...  The only way now is to search for specific problems... Maybe a pensioner  or someone with lots of spare time can make a listing of all faults possible, then the others only have to put "0" or the mileage at which their car suffered the problem... VIN A146A395xxx 201.000 Km's. DEFA heater. LR_V8 -frontdiscs
Vredestein 'Wintrac 4 extreme'. LED-style tailights.
*** IR-nightvision WANTED ****
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 6:54pm |
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Leesbay
Member Since: 20 Dec 2011
Location: in the NW
Posts: 222
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Let's face it we all like to report bad news, and when we have some we find a common venue to report it. Thats why most sites are ful of common problems and fixes. When we don't have problems we rarely want to spend additional time reporting that fact, we just continue enjoying the car whilst it's running great
I agree with most in the fact that when buying the Disco, it was a heart driven purchase, but I fully appreciated that it wasn't likely to be a cheap car to run in comparison to previously owned bmws and audis, mainly because of the other marques having proven build quality, but also that the disco is a bigger more agricultural vehicle. I therefore got a decent aftermarket warranty so that I can enjoy driving it rather than listening out for every squeak and clunk and hoping that it wouldn't break the bank! Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 7:00pm |
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wvlenthe
Member Since: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Arnhem
Posts: 1169
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My FIL got leukemia 7 years ago.
He had a 20% chance of being alive 5 years after falling ill.
Guess what: he's still around.
I have been playing in two different lotteries for years now. Statistically I don't stand a chance of winning but I'm not giving up. Mainly because the street price will probably hit my street the month after I resign. But as I don't resign, it doesn't.
So gather all statistics you want, in the end you only need to be at the good end of them.
Buy the vehicle for all joys it will bring you that cannot be expressed in terms of money and take whatever you need to throw at it for granted.
Wiljo Two D3 V8 HSE Auto in Zermatt silver - one for the driveway, one for the living room cupboard.
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| Fri Jan 20 2012 7:07pm |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: England
Posts: 283
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One also buys for the prestige, imagine if you can being in the local and coming out with the statement "I own a Rav 4" or I own a Qrashcar" or "I own a Xtrail ". Who gives these vehicles such ridiculous names? - the name alone puts me off buying one.
Much better to be the person to say "I will" when someone comes into the pub and shouts "I own a BMW X5 and I'm stuck in the car park, is there anyone here with a Landrover who can give me a tow?" It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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