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NJSS
 


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TPMS Problems - TOPIX ?

I am having problems with TPMS valves on my 2016 MY Landmark.

I have changed my "summer" wheels & tyres for "winter" wheels & tyres. Each set of wheels has its own set of TPMS valves.

The car does not recognise those in the Winter wheels. I am told that this should happen automatically and that TOPIX says:-

Quote:
TIRE LOCATION

Because of the requirement for different pressure targets and thresholds for the front and rear tires, the CJB can identify the location of the tires on the vehicle, and assign a received tire pressure sensor identification to a specific position on the vehicle (i.e. FL (front left), FR (front right), RL (rear left) or RR (rear right)).

Tire location is performed automatically by the CJB using an auto-location function. This function requires no manual intervention by the driver. The CJB can automatically learn the position of tires on the vehicle if the tire pressure sensors or their positions are changed on the vehicle.

The tire learn and location process is ready to commence when the vehicle has been stationary or is traveling at less than 12 mph (20 km/h) for 15 minutes. This is known as 'parking mode'. The learn/locate process requires the vehicle to be driven at speeds of more than 12 mph (20 km/h) for 15 minutes. If the vehicle speed reduces to below 12 mph (20 km/h), the learn process timer is suspended until the vehicle speed increases to more than 12 mph (20 km/h), after which time the timer is resumed. If the vehicle speed remains below 12 mph (20 km/h) for more than 15 minutes, the timer is set to zero and process starts again.

The CJB can automatically detect, under all operating conditions, the following:

one or more tire pressure sensors have been replaced
one or more tire pressure sensor identifications are missing
one or more ‘alien’ identifications are being received, i.e. the CJB can reject identifications from tire pressure sensors that do not belong to the vehicle
the spare tire and one of the tires in use on the vehicle have exchanged position on the vehicle.

If the tire pressure sensors fitted to the running wheels (not the spare) are changed, the CJB can learn the new sensor identifications automatically. The learn function requires no manual intervention by the driver.

If a new sensor is fitted to the spare tire it must have its identification code programmed into the CJB using a Land Rover approved diagnostic system, or used on the vehicle as a 'running' wheel and the vehicle driven for 15 minutes at more than 12.5 mph (20 km/h).


The above is clearly from a North American version of Topix.

Could some kind person who has access to Topix please post the UK equivalent of the above here.

Thanks in advance.

NJSS
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
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markate
 


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Are both sets of TPMS sensors the latest type, only the most recent ones will work on a 2016 MY vehicle.

I've just done the same change from Summer to Winter and the sensors picked up the change immediately and both sets are the same type.

Apart from the spelling the information on the sensors you posted is I believe correct for UK spec vehicles.
  
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NJSS
 


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markate

Thanks for your response.

I believe that both sets of TPMS sensors the latest type. One set came with the car, one was bought this year. Both have numbers ending "AB" rather than "AA".

It would help to have the wording from Topix for a UK spec 2016 Landmark if anyone can provide this please.

NJSS
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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My off-road wheels were on my MY2015 with TPMS and when I fitted them to my MY2016 Landmark the sensors were picked up after drive to the end of the street and back.

This is a photo of one of my valves

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The handbook does say that it may take 15 minutes of driving to be picked up

Click image to enlarge
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NJSS
 


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Thanks Ian.

I's still like to have the actual words from Topix for a UK 2016 Landmark though!

NJSS
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t. 
 
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michael calvert
 


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Just put my winter wheels on which don't have tpms valves.

Dashboard now indicates TPMS Fault....can this be deleted with any method as the tyre don't have the valves or so I need to get the tpms for both wheels?

Tia
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Only way to remove the TPMS fault message is to fit wheels with TPMS sensors.

You might want to upgrade your vehicle on your profile as it's still showing a D3!
  
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Will update profile
Thanks I was fearing it would be fitting tpms to solve problem.

Any idea how to find which frequency they are?
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Have a look at Hairy Dan's photo a bit further up the page.
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Thanks guys.

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Please ...

Can anyone down load the English version of what I posted..

NJSS
 Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.

2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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michael calvert wrote:
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Hairy Dan wrote:
My off-road wheels were on my MY2015 with TPMS and when I fitted them to my MY2016 Landmark the sensors were picked up after drive to the end of the street and back.

This is a photo of one of my valves

Click image to enlarge


The handbook does say that it may take 15 minutes of driving to be picked up

Click image to enlarge


I have AB’s on the winter set on my Landmark MY16, they don’t work, looking to get some AA’s.
  
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Nigel and Hairy Dan do your cars display the actual tyre pressure? If they do, could I be cheeky and get you to photograph the display as my car doesn’t Crying or Very sad
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