Motolab wrote:

Jag engine is maybe some extra work in changing some stuff out.... it is far less work then to build up a short block..... since that is 100% the same between the two “brands”

Jag engine’s can be found with far less miles on them than the most land rovers with good engines..

So what you can loose on time, you can win on an fresher engine.. imho..

One day extra work is not that much money (with such a whole project in mind..) when it gives you lets say 100k mls less

Been there done it..



Good luck with your choice

Hi Harold..I take your point but I am currently looking at a couple of LR TDV6 engines with between 90 and 120K on the clock with all ancillaries fitted , one is complete and the other is missing the Starter Motor and PAS pump which is no big deal as easy to refit afterwards.
In both cases, as with any others that appear, I shall be having all belts etc replaced irregardless together with the oil pump, don't care if it was done 3 months or 500 miles ago. The belts and tensioners in the kit have been replaced well within the time specified by LR and the car has only done 37K since the last change. DAYCO is a supplier to LR
This episode is going to cost a lot of money all in and I do not intend to take the easy way out and send the old girl to the graveyard yet. I have had LR's for many years from the Classic to a Disco 1, P38, Vogue, Freelander TD4 and this Disco 3. Fitted new short engines to the Classic, 3.9, V8 and the P38, 4.6, V8 due to porous blocks/slipped liners-sold them and they are still going strong today. Although the V8's were known for the low oil pressure at idle it was unheard of regarding crank failure or timing belt issues as they had a chain and the time for the change was when the rattle of the chain was louder than the radio they still ran on though.

lynalldiscovery wrote:

Have you actually seen the broken pump with your own eyes?

No, but do not have any reason to doubt his explanation of the damage. Besides that, it was absolutely p^**$ng down with rain when I called in this afternoon

aja4x4 wrote:

What later pump was fitted was it a genuine one?

Fitted by Stratstone Land Rover, 2017 during Timing belt change at 96K according to the LR history.
I replaced the belts (Timing, fuel pump and Serpentine (Alternator etc plus water pump) with a Dayco full kit including tensioner (top) at 150K and before you ask, used the correct locking tools and the car started and ran perfectly afterwards. I can't imagine LR used a spurious ( Foreign ) oil pump to save money !! Car has done 187K to date and has oil & filter changes every 5K miles-6K at the most using Mahle filters and Mannol fully synthetic oil which is far less mileage between oil/filter changes than the interval stated in the service book. The air and pollen filters are changed every other oil change 10-12K intervals. Car has never used or lost oil between changes, level checked weekly and never required topping up.[/quote5]

Its unusual for LR to replace an oil pump are you sure it wasnt water pump?

motorworks wrote:

How does gearbox failure cause engine failure, or the other way around?

I would suggest a compression test on the used engine before fitting, since a successful outcome all hinges on it being in good health.

aja4x4 wrote:

When your driving and the engine dies the road wheels still drive the gearbox but the engine is not driving the torque converter and causes the hydraulic pump to loose pressure. The megatronics unit then flags up a fault.
The OP originally thought it was gearbox as that was the fault shown on the dash and the fact he had no drive.

On reflection, you're correct and the sudden acute smell of burnt ATF added to my thoughts