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Ian62
 


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Tyre wear and new Pirelli Scorpions

It wasn’t that long a go (15k) that I posted here how happy I was with the Pirelli Scorpions 255/60/18, as my first set had survived 30k before I was forced to replace them with four brand news ones. Thumbs Up Now 15k later and the rear ones are down to the wear marker Big Cry but they are showing uneven wear on the outer edges. Spoke to my stealer who will approach Land Rover and ask if they can replace them free of charge. Whistle

Just in case the worst case scenario happens and that I have to replace them myself I went price hunting and stumbled on the following.

A tyre dealer told me that the OEM tyres are sometimes a different compound to those we get later on the open market, Shocked which explains why I got 30k out of the first set and only 15k on this set – anyone heard of that before?

On checking the prices for a new set, he also told me that Pirelli have just brought out a new Scorpion tyre – anyone heard of a new Scorpion tyre?
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New scorpions http://www.pirelli.co.uk/web/catalog/car-s...AR-SUV-VAN
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Ian62
 


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Thanks Wiggs & Slimer but that's the ATR version and the tyre dealer said there are new zero's on the market.

Stealer just phoned to say that my D3 had done too many miles so they won't replace the tyres free of charge Big Cry
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Well my OEM Zeroes went down from 8mm to 4mm of tread after 13K - so I would say they would have been good for 20K max Neutral
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We now have the new 255/60x18 Pirelli Scorpion ATR in stock, looks OK, if anyone wants to try a set out I will do a special price. Thumbs Up

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Andy. www.ajstyres.co.uk
  
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OK, can anyone in the know verify: will the Pirelli ATR extend braking distance by 50% over Zeros? It would be a bit dull if I had to own three sets of wheels: summer Zeros, Snow Ice Zeros and a set of off-road tyres to be sure that I can play in the mud whilst being sure that I've done right by the wife and kids.
  
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Last week I replaced all 4 of my OEM Pirelli Scorpion Zeros & 18" wheels with.....


OEM GoodYear Wrangler HP AW's on identical wheels!
(See Here) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...0226817490

The Pirellis had covered 39000 miles and probably had another couple of thousand in them but they were getting a bit noisy!

Anyone had Wranglers on from new?

Can I expect similar milage out of them do you think?

What should I put on my old wheels for a bit of play-time?
  
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DiscoDad wrote:
Last week I replaced all 4 of my OEM Pirelli Scorpion Zeros & 18" wheels with.....


OEM GoodYear Wrangler HP AW's on identical wheels!
(See Here) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...0226817490

The Pirellis had covered 39000 miles and probably had another couple of thousand in them but they were getting a bit noisy!

Anyone had Wranglers on from new?

Can I expect similar milage out of them do you think?

What should I put on my old wheels for a bit of play-time?


Good deal on the wheels, and you were fortunate to get 39K from the Pirellis - mine had the inner wear problem at 18K (and there wasn't too much tread left across the rest). Might be worth getting a 4 wheel align done to ensure full wear from the new set.
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Post #31213920th Jun 2008 8:31 am
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Wow, 39K out of Scorpions, that must be a record, no good for my pocket though. Thumbs Up

Andy www.ajstyres.co.uk
  
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Since fitting the 19" inch wheels in place of 17s I've noticed some strange wear on the outer edge of the nearside rear. With the 17s, running Continental tyres the wear was even and normal, but now with the 19 it's chewing up the front edge of the treads, but just on the outside edge. It's not that easy to see on the picture, but the font edges are kind of lifted, with a 45 degree 'chamfer' of worn rubber on the very edge. Anyone know what might be causing this? The other side and front are fine.
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Ridgeback, this is commonly known as "biting" and is caused by poor wheel alignment. Slide your hand over the tread in one direction and it will appear Ok, but when you slide it back the other way you will find that the tread "bites" into your hand.

Suggest the "toe" is in or out? The camber setting will affect the even wear across the tread so this may be Ok with what you've suggested. bottom line is that you will eventually need a wheel alignment to adjust the Toe.....
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