BarryG
Member Since: 30 Apr 2006
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Toying with this idea now for a while ,
have spoken to some already about doing this to the D3 .
any one any views ,
This is after Turbochip , Performace exhaust and induction,
have a look here http://www.shopatron.com/products/productd...24623.0.0?
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 15th Nov 2009 9:29 pm |
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marcon
Member Since: 01 Mar 2006
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Barry go and purchase a Subaru and get a new set of off road tyres for the D3 
Mind you I will keep an eye on this post. 
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| 16th Nov 2009 12:35 am |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Not on a D3, but have heard of it being done on various other cars...
With a straight Meth. injection kit, you will get approx 10-15bhp out the box on a standard car. If it is more tuned etc and remapped with the M.I fitted, anything upto 25bhp
TBH, its probably one of the last things you would realistically do if you are going for high power to help keep combustion temps down My D3 Build Thread
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| 16th Nov 2009 8:12 am |
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BarryG
Member Since: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Eire
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
TBH, its probably one of the last things you would realistically do if you are going for high power to help keep combustion temps down
Hi Mikey.
what would you recommend ?
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| 17th Nov 2009 2:00 pm |
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BarryG
Member Since: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Eire
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Hi Mickey
You said "its probably one of the last things you would realistically do"
I was just asking what would you suggest , If this is one of the last things you would do
what would be one of the first be . Hope that makes sense .
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| 17th Nov 2009 7:49 pm |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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Depends how much power you want...
A bigger intercooler and a generic remap will probably be enough for most people
You could go nuts and go for uprated injectors, hybrid turbo, a proper performance exhaust, ported/polished heads, then W.I/M.I and a custom remap etc
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| 17th Nov 2009 8:01 pm |
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BarryG
Member Since: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Eire
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your could go nuts , I hear you Mikey .
But not in a Disco. 
as you say , A bigger intercooler and a generic remap will probably be enough for most people
im not convinced that a bigger intercooler is the way to go , that is to say not the the way to go for me.
hence the Wat/met system
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| 18th Nov 2009 12:29 am |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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tis all just pi ss and wind
Why not keen on the intercooler? Makes a hell of a difference to any forced induction system I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 18th Nov 2009 12:42 am |
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Bodsy
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Barry, you need to speak to Ent, he reckons he has the fastest D3 and I think VeryDisco can confirm that it's pant-spoilingly quick  Bodsys Brake Bible
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| 18th Nov 2009 12:53 am |
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BarryG
Member Since: 30 Apr 2006
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NoDo$h wrote:tis all just pi ss and wind
Why not keen on the intercooler? Makes a hell of a difference to any forced induction system
I have no problem with the bigger intercooler and can see how it would work.
belting down the motorway with a 120mph wind in its face, BUT stuck in the mud
engine running Hot and working just as hard as the motorway but with no ram air
on the intercooler , or going nowhere fast pulling your way through a few miles of heavy sand.
are you getting any better cooling over the OEM cooler ? Im sure a bit , but not as much
as you would on the motor way.
I think the water/met system might be better in this case ? i say might be
as I still trying to figure all this out.
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| 18th Nov 2009 1:25 am |
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NoDo$h
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Ah, more power when stuck.... You'll be wanting the "boot full of spare driveshafts" option I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 18th Nov 2009 1:30 am |
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BarryG
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Location: Eire
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NoDo$h wrote:Ah, more power when stuck.... You'll be wanting the "boot full of spare driveshafts" option
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| 18th Nov 2009 1:35 am |
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disco4x4au
Member Since: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Perth
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I had a similar system fitted to my D1 200TDI. By itself, there was no real discernible difference, but it did allow you to turn up the fueling and the turbo a bit without overheating, which helped marginally with sand dune ascents. I didn't think it was worth the cost (about $1200 7 years ago). A bigger intercooler (which cost $400) was a lot more beneficial, even at off-road speeds, as the turbo was working just as hard. In fact I ended up using the water/methanol jets to cool the intercooler, via a manual switch on the dash. Flicked it for 20 sec or so just before attempting a large dune!
Cheers,
Gordon ex - 2006 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, with lots of stuff - R.I.P.
ex - 2009 D3 TDV6 SE, silver, had lots of stuff too!
Now - 2010 RRS 3.0 TDV6, rimini red, 18" rims + Cooper LTZ, rear eLocker, Spider tuning box, GOE protection plates and rock sliders, GOE 3way shortened rods.
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| 18th Nov 2009 7:27 am |
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Bodsy
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Was about to suggest water injection onto the intercooler.
Scoobies have this option on some of the Japanese imports and I believe the newer versions are self regulating water injection for when you need the extra boost.
Althoug I think Barry, you'd be suprised at the extra ooomph a bigger intercooler will give you in all conditions.
It's certainly an easy mod and not that expensive in comparison Bodsys Brake Bible
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