Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
surely all the important info should be disclosed in the sales write up
3rd Jun 2020 4:02 pm
Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1063
I originally thought there might be a typo but then I looked at all the pictures in the salvage report... I think the vehicle was stolen and had a different identity. That would explain the lack of MOTs etc...
The 'typo' issue might be that or it might be that with it's new identity the vehicle did 100K miles in three years and then someone has seen fit to return it to it's original identity miles..
Either way, I won't be bothering with it.
If you look at the dealers pictures of the vehicle it also includes the 'good service history' which is this showing at best a gap of 5 years between servicing (unless other receipts are not shown)....
I hardly think that is a 'good service history'...
Anyway, if it tickles your fancy you won't be having any competition from me!
3rd Jun 2020 4:46 pm
Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1063
..just before I leave this one I had another scan through the salvage pictures and you can clearly see the mileage at 139K +....
I am going to ring the dealers and point it out....
Salvage...
....and Dealer...
vehicle pictures look similar for an XXV right down to the nearside front lower valance clip being loose...
3rd Jun 2020 5:02 pm
Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1063
Salesperson was oblivious and says HPI shows none of this....
They are a family firm and look and review well (AutoTrader Retailer of the Year, if that isn't just purchased...).
I think they've been had.....
3rd Jun 2020 5:19 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
WOW - a very lucky escape for you and I hope it gets removed/sorted before some poor sod gets taken in.
Mind you, who wouldn't do a vehicle check when spending close to £30k?
There aren't that many XXV's about I guess so easy to be taken in by the 40k mileage if you really wanted one - maybe that's their angle. I would have walked away with the gap in the service anyways.
I looked at an XXV in Cardiff before I bought mine elsewhere and they said on the phone full service/lovely condition all that flannel to get me there. Got there, didn't look that well looked after, checked the VIN, no service for years. . Serves me right for thinking a car supermarket would have good stock ;(
Oxford-boy wrote:
vehicle pictures look similar for an XXV right down to the nearside front lower valance clip being loose...
- mine does that - I was going to ask how it is easily fixed...as it's a bit annoying.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
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3rd Jun 2020 5:22 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
Oxford-boy wrote:
Salesperson was oblivious and says HPI shows none of this....
They are a family firm and look and review well (AutoTrader Retailer of the Year, if that isn't just purchased...).
I think they've been had.....
"Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the above information but errors may occur. Please check with a salesperson." In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
3rd Jun 2020 5:26 pm
Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1063
'It is HPI clear'.....
Over on the Performance Audi Forum I am also on HPI is fast losing credibility.
I recommend vcheck.uk (and again say it has nothing to do with me..).
3rd Jun 2020 5:29 pm
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4156
The sticker on it denotes that it has a false VIN on the chassis. The sticker is an identifier to Police that the Vehicle has been previously been through police hands and identified by an authorised stolen vehicle examiner.
It has been given a unique number which gives subsequent provenance of the vehicle.
The dealer should declare by law that this vehicle is a previously stolen vehicle. If not then any subsequent purchaser should be able to fully recover his deposit in full...
The vehicle is worth half of its current advertised value.
3rd Jun 2020 8:17 pm
RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1651
RATA1 wrote:
I looked at an XXV in Cardiff before I bought mine elsewhere and they said on the phone full service/lovely condition all that flannel to get me there. Got there, didn't look that well looked after, checked the VIN, no service for years. . Serves me right for thinking a car supermarket would have good stock ;(
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bought mine from a car supermarket in Peterborough, 100 mile round trip from mine and went down to view and then again to sign for it. Full service history, 1 owner, all receipts and well looked after. The only down side was their finance APR was ridiculous and their 3 month warranty useless but I just funded it from elsewhere. Overall it was decent car from a decent dealer.
So car supermarkets do have good honest cars in stock2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
4th Jun 2020 7:48 am
Oswiperus D3 Decade
Member Since: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 1590
I'm sure I recognise the salvage photo as a Copart car advertised a while ago and the high mileage rings a bell in my tiny brain too, can't recall what depot though.
Is now on Scottish reg number but originally supplied by London dealer but this may not be an issue I suppose as doesn't always go back to original plate after a private plate?Stu
2016 D4 Landmark current
2022 Defender D300 SE Gone
D4 2014 XS Commercial - Gone
D4 2016 hse lux montalcino red - Gone
D3 2005 se java black - current
D3 2005 base manual - gone
D2 1999 TD5 E white - current
4th Jun 2020 10:10 am
Oxford-boy
Member Since: 07 Sep 2015
Location: Oxford
Posts: 1063
Sales Manager emailed me back saying vcheck was wrong. That the car is a different colour (it isn't) and that the condition is different (it does not look that way in both the dealer pictures and the extensive salvage pictures). He said there'd be a 'price reduction' if I ws still interested.
I said that I would want an AA report (given the dealer makes much of the 'AA inspected' marketing) on the paint depth and condition around the VIN number before I did anything.
The dealer has now removed the car from sale and their website.
It can still be found on a strange web site, ironically called Honest Phil’s Emporium of Cars
5th Jun 2020 3:57 pm
Andy_62
Member Since: 12 Oct 2020
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 2
SF14 PZG
Looks like this has now turned up in Peterborough with 41k on the clock and selling for £27,999
12th Oct 2020 9:56 pm
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4156
There should be a second police sticker near the VIN sticker plate... the one near the stamped vin is a ridiculous place to put it as that area needs repainting....dishonest car dealers would also try to disguise it...
This is the problem when there are so many early cars that end up as salvage due to engine failure..they provide an easy and quick and cheap identity to place on a late stolen D4....
They end up on EBay as a facelift D4/3 which tempts buyers....
12th Oct 2020 10:16 pm
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4156
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