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simoniz wrote:
Do all D3's have heated nozzles on the jets regardless of spec??? - new one for me this Shocked







HI S

I didnt have them. You can tell when you open the bonnet and on the pass. side you'll see the tube near the hinge bringing the water to the washers. You can see from that if the bigger tube has a smaller wire running alongside it under the black tape - if its there I think you can be sure the heater washers are installed. Failing that you could take off the bonnet liner and have a peak underneath, bit bothersome tho.


I ordered the two nozles off TLO and then went to a scrap yard and got them to take out the required loom from a D3 that had been stripped down and retro fitted them when I got home. Cold snap not long after so worked a treat. Antifreeze in the washer bottle still required Thumbs Up All in cost about £20. Simple but handy mod Thumbs Up
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Thanks for reminding me of the next thing on my list I needed to ask about Rolling Eyes

I'm pretty damn sure my washers are heated - I replaced the nozzles a couple of weeks back at LR and obviously realised the extra wiring was the heating elements.

BUT.... the damn things don't seem to be thawing out at all. Get this - called up Aberdeen LR and the girl on the service desk went and asked upon my query on how they worked Rolling Eyes Her answer was that they were permanently on but would only raise the temp 0.5 deg C above the norm. What friggin use would that be if it's -5 deg C outside I ask? Surely the ampage is enough to thaw out such a small surface area of metal?

Anyway, questions I have would obviously be:

a/ Is it permanently on or does it require the switching on of rear/front heated windscreen?
b/ Does it sound like the fuse has gone if it's not thawing out and if so, is this relatively easy to find on the fuse box from hell?

Cheers.
LL
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They're switched by the ATCU based upon external temperature, uses the same relay as the heated mirrors, if they feel warm then the heated washer jets should be warm too, the relay is pulsed to prevent overheating of the mirrors & jets. Both fuses and the relay are in the BJB so easy to get to
  
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10forcash wrote:
Both fuses and the relay are in the BJB so easy to get to


I'm sorry, before I dissappear in to the passenger footwell never to be seen of again, please explain for us dimwhits too proud to ask "BJB" Rolling Eyes
  
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10forcash wrote:
They're switched by the ATCU based upon external temperature, uses the same relay as the heated mirrors, if they feel warm then the heated washer jets should be warm too, the relay is pulsed to prevent overheating of the mirrors & jets. Both fuses and the relay are in the BJB so easy to get to


Ah, another connundrum... how do I know if I have heated mirrors (other than if they thaw the frost that befalls them)?

TBH, I reckon my fuse has blown.

Oh yeah, BJB???????
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Heated mirrors feel warm when it's cold outside Wink
BJB = Battery Junction Box
  
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I think I'm coming to the same conclusion and possibly find that I too might have heated jets at the same time Rolling with laughter
  
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10forcash wrote:
Heated mirrors feel warm when it's cold outside Wink
BJB = Battery Junction Box
located where my I ask sir Rolling Eyes  
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The clue's in the name Rolling with laughter follow the smaller red wire from the battery under the black plastic cover and.... Mr. Green
  
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so in my pj's tomorrow I've got to:

a) mess about in the passenger footwell to find the fuse for the windscreen jets, possibly using one of our 2 dogs to hold the tourch

b) and now go hunting in the engine bay for the "dont pull the red one" wire to follow the BJB and locate said fuses

c) stick me hand up the n/s front wheel arch approx 1.5 inches from the end of the FBH to see if working, if not disconnect and re-connect as per previous post

all before I even had a piece of toast, cheers for that....... no I mean CHEERS FOR THAT Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
 

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10forcash wrote:
Heated mirrors feel warm when it's cold outside Wink
BJB = Battery Junction Box


I know it sounded like a stupid question that deserved a stupid answer... but is it safe to assume that if I have heated jets I also have heated mirrors (ie it's a standard cold/winter pack that would include heated windscreen, jets, mirrors etc)?
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yep your learning as quickly as me Rolling with laughter

answer coming up just about ........... no sorry everyones watching johnathon creek as someones posted a "spotted" on the programme!

I've not got heated windscreen, however I thing I've got heated mirrors and heated jets but not sure until I find/replace the fuses

Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
  
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I've not got heated windscreen, however I thing I've got heated mirrors and heated jets but not sure until I find/replace the fuses

Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter


So fuses for both jets and mirrors can be found in the BJ box (sounds a bit rude!!)?
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Yep! and the relay
  
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well I've spoken to one of the two dogs... he's said yes he will get up with me and help so long as I bring a pooh bag or two with me Rolling with laughter

Oh happy days, I'll look forward to these little tasks in the morning.. not Laughing
  
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