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russgs
Member Since: 28 Jun 2008
Location: Herts
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What sort of lifetime should i expect from my brake discs?
06HSE with 55000 miles and I can't seem to find a wear sensor or the rim of the disc, and although i think i have read the minimum thickness from the side of the disc I can't see how I would get a micrometer on there to measure the thickness of the outer (or inner) disc as they are sandwich together neatly!
In another issue the brakes feel very spongy and the pedal travels quite a way before stopping, changed the pads a few months ago (genuine LR), but then the backs are nearly finished, so not sure, anyone else come across this? 2006 D3 HSE
2004 BMW R1200GS <-- it's a two-wheeled disco
2008 Suzuki Splash (sick of my D3 being wasted on the school run)
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1st Mar 2009 8:31 pm |
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DN
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Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
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The wear sensors are only for the brake pads,not the discs, and these are only on the N/s front and O/s rear. You will need to measure the disc thicknesses (you can get a micrometer on there, but you may need to push the backplate away slightly to get it on properly). There should be no sponginess at the pedal though, a number of people have recently been reporting excessive pedal travel / sponginess, definately something not right there.BTW I think you are referring to the front (ventilated) discs, you measure the TOTAL thickness and you will need a 25-50mm micrometer for these, as opposed to a 0-25mm for the rears.
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1st Mar 2009 8:56 pm |
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russgs
Member Since: 28 Jun 2008
Location: Herts
Posts: 49
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ok so what thickness am i looking for on the front discs considering they are ventilated?
and what are the rear minimum
Quite fancy some 'pimp my ride' cross drilled discs
thx 2006 D3 HSE
2004 BMW R1200GS <-- it's a two-wheeled disco
2008 Suzuki Splash (sick of my D3 being wasted on the school run)
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1st Mar 2009 9:11 pm |
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DN
D3 Decade
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
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Front - min thickness 27mm, rears 17mm.
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1st Mar 2009 9:17 pm |
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russgs
Member Since: 28 Jun 2008
Location: Herts
Posts: 49
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hero! thanks
shall dig out mr micrometer!
has anyone tried the cross drilled brake discs? I should imagine they chew the standard chocolate pads good and proper though. 2006 D3 HSE
2004 BMW R1200GS <-- it's a two-wheeled disco
2008 Suzuki Splash (sick of my D3 being wasted on the school run)
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1st Mar 2009 9:20 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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russgs wrote:In another issue the brakes feel very spongy and the pedal travels quite a way before stopping, changed the pads a few months ago (genuine LR), but then the backs are nearly finished, so not sure, anyone else come across this?
Undo the connector in the vacuum line next to the servo and tap it onto your hand. If you see oil you have a cotaminated servo. It causes the seals to go. Get it to dealer they should replace the servo lines vacuum pump and master cylinder. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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1st Mar 2009 9:25 pm |
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russgs
Member Since: 28 Jun 2008
Location: Herts
Posts: 49
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caverD3, will try that, car is going to dealers for new air con pump so will check before it goes in 2006 D3 HSE
2004 BMW R1200GS <-- it's a two-wheeled disco
2008 Suzuki Splash (sick of my D3 being wasted on the school run)
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1st Mar 2009 9:44 pm |
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RMB
Member Since: 20 Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 260
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Mine
15,000 miles, Needs new brake shoes AND new disks all round. Aint that a kick in the teeth. B-A-S Remap Interface giving me control over my remap
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2nd Mar 2009 12:21 am |
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Bodsy
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15k on the disks!!!! Did you have a stone grinding into it or Pads that you changed too late? I'd be pushing for the disks as warranty of they only lasted that long!!!!
I changed pads all round at 25k, disks were fine then and still OK at 36k Bodsys Brake Bible
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2nd Mar 2009 12:40 am |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
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Pads all round for me at 51500 miles..disks still ok at 84000 miles
Going to change them all ...disks and pads in the next month as i have a road trip of 4000 miles comming up in April ...proberly going to try the vented and drilled disks with kevlar pads G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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2nd Mar 2009 1:05 am |
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RMB
Member Since: 20 Mar 2007
Location: Scotland
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Afraid it was my bad
I was expecting the warning light to let me know the pads were bad. With the good sound system, I never heard the GRINDING until it was too late. Don’t I feel a fool. First time it ever happened to me.
I will be checking the pads regular from now on. Won’t trust warning systems again.
Rab. B-A-S Remap Interface giving me control over my remap
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2nd Mar 2009 1:10 am |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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85K on mine and looking to change disks in next couple of thou miles. I dont think they really need doing but the Rear Offside brakes have been sticking and heating the wheel up to high temps. Brake pads have disintegrated so though i'd change them and clean/adjust EPB just to be on safe side.
Might take a loada pics and produce a pdf.
Are there any intructions about. Ive seen the ones in Bodsy's gallery Duncan
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2nd Mar 2009 9:44 am |
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Bodsy
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DiscoMikey did some instructions, think they're a sticky, as well as Gareth's original changing front pads post, most of the stuff is in that zip file, but could do with combining all the detaills into one PDF if you're up for the challenge Bodsys Brake Bible
D4/D3 Remote FBH heat kits
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2nd Mar 2009 9:49 am |
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russgs
Member Since: 28 Jun 2008
Location: Herts
Posts: 49
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caverD3 wrote:
Undo the connector in the vacuum line next to the servo and tap it onto your hand. If you see oil you have a cotaminated servo. It causes the seals to go. Get it to dealer they should replace the servo lines vacuum pump and master cylinder.
presuming the vacuum line is the only rubbery hose in the whole braking area under the cover i disconnected it at the midway point and did what you suggested, I have found deposits of black liquid in my hand, I presume this means the seals have gone?
! always said the brakes weren't quite right on my D3...so we can add brakes to the list along with aircon and shaky steering at 50mph to the list
Frustrating sometimes, a car so awesome has annoying faults like this 2006 D3 HSE
2004 BMW R1200GS <-- it's a two-wheeled disco
2008 Suzuki Splash (sick of my D3 being wasted on the school run)
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2nd Mar 2009 11:53 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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If your brakes don't feel right then probably gone.
If still ok they will go at some point. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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3rd Mar 2009 2:25 am |
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