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Tawny Owl
Member Since: 22 Oct 2008
Location: Here and there
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That is just  !!!
Sorry to hear yer bad news but like ND says, keep yer chin up , have a bloody good christmas and start with a fresh year 
All the best AD
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 16th Dec 2009 11:17 pm |
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Popelka
Member Since: 31 May 2008
Location: Praha (Prague)
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happened to my twin brother while away on holiday.
got to find a letter in the post not to go back to work as they had made him redundant in his absence 
Good luck in the new year and enjoy Xmas for what it is Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!
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| 17th Dec 2009 7:13 am |
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SPOTTER
Member Since: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
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sorry to here that AD15....usual bad form from the coporate world............
these things do happen to have a habit of coming good eventually as ND says though so stick with it
Not sure how this sits with Martin, but we are recruiting at the moment (different field I suspect though)? end of an era ....... maybe a Defender when it appears.......
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| 17th Dec 2009 7:44 am |
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Frapp
Member Since: 19 Dec 2008
Location: Norff Zummerzet
Posts: 1654
 
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WTF is happening AD
I go shopping for a few hours and return to this
Enjoy the break then get sorted in the new year
Frapp Member of the carrot crank club
Embarrassingly in for the 2nd round, bought another two
D3 Jack Russell carrier
D4 Landmark for towing duties
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| 17th Dec 2009 10:14 am |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
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Quote:I go shopping for a few hours and return to this
that's all i did too.. 
present company excepted...i hope,
don't trust big companies, or small ones for that fact,,
they'll screw you quicker than you can go
will be posting a little bit on my experience as recommended by ND and others if that's ok, if anybody has ideas then feel free,
also toying with a start- up.. one wife.......livid
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| 17th Dec 2009 11:57 am |
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Dexter
Member Since: 21 Sep 2007
Location: Aberdeenshire
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Sorry to hear of your situation, I suggest that you seek legal advice, worth an hour of an employmnet lawyer's time.
It's the position they can make redundant, not the person and legally there usually has to be a period of consultation where efforts are made to avoid the individual going, including consideration for redeployment etc.
Whilst we all realise that this is wash, the process has to be followed for staff members, otherwise my first request would be for a compromise agreement, i.e. a cash settlement made without prejudice for the individual to walk away - this is usually a minimum of 6 months wages (depending on other contract terms) and note the first 30k is tax free 
Good luck - things are on the up generally and as the saying goes ' as one door slams in your face ............'
Dex
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| 17th Dec 2009 2:36 pm |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
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Quote: a cash settlement made without prejudice for the individual to walk away - this is usually a minimum of 6 months wages (depending on other contract terms) and note the first 30k is tax free
exactly what i'm doing dexter the guy that owns the company's father is a coorp contract lawyer in LA so don't really have the time or inclination to go up against them form over here,
However, I am going for a suitably large settlement and as I have the money sat here there really isn't a whole lot they can do about it...
it also seems that the international distributors are suitably hacked off with the US and are supporting me, so far i have 5 country's, the freight people, the factory/ sourcing company all coming with me, very jerry maguire...
just need to decide if i've got the balls to start up my own brand and go head to head, actually just flatten them.. one wife.......livid
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| 17th Dec 2009 3:28 pm |
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Willy Eckerslike
Member Since: 12 Jan 2009
Location: N Yorks
Posts: 1612
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Do it AD, you won't regret it, customers much prefer dealing with decent down to earth people than faceless companies and you'll probably find you're much better than you think you are.
Good luck either way Club Pie n Pea
One life....Fish it
D3 Gone but not forgotten
Club Men of Oak
Club Walnut sniffers
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Ents long lost Uncle
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| 17th Dec 2009 3:33 pm |
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RPG
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: The End of the Earth (West Cornwall)
Posts: 712
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Ady, that is truely
Total ing ers 
Quote:just need to decide if i've got the balls to start up my own brand and go head to head, actually just flatten them
Do it I know some guys around here who might be up for helping you out if you need me to put you in contact...although I suspect your contacts are much better then mine, but every little helps...one guy just went through the exact same thing with Volcom. Now he's freelance.
On the plus side...I guess that means you aren't working, now? Me neither as of tomorrow...PLAYTIME 
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| 17th Dec 2009 7:29 pm |
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TSR2
Member Since: 22 Jul 2008
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 1104
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ady,
What a lovely Christmas present Ho Ho F king Ho!! 
I worked for an American oil company as staff for nearly 24 years. It tends to be quite difficult for them to get rid of American staff or used to be any way so there was always a tendency to cut over seas first, especially contract personnel. Corporate thinking can change in an instant with no reason other than a new boss may be in the seat.
Sorry to hear the bad news mate and I hope things change for the better very soon.
If there's anything I can do let me know.
And sincerely...f ck them and I hope you manage to have a Merry Christmas despite this cr@p.
Trev.
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| 17th Dec 2009 8:03 pm |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
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Quote:one guy just went through the exact same thing with Volcom. Now he's freelance.
would that be colin??
pete, i think the oil industry would be alot safer if i was no where near a rig, although i saw that hostage film and it looked like fun..
thanks for all the support chaps, as far as setting up on own goes, so far i have 5 international distributors, a sourcing agent
(inc factorys), web designer, product designer, oh and international magazine support, oh, 2 macs and a D3 
just working on a brand name and narrowing product catergories down.. one wife.......livid
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| 17th Dec 2009 8:37 pm |
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pom
Member Since: 10 Feb 2008
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 1790
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Not sure how large your workplace is, but redundancy has to be conducted in a specific process. There HAS to be consultation, you get pay in lieu of notice, payment for years worked etc.
Citizens Advice Bureau is well worth a visit, if the company can't or wont pay the government will in their place. Same thing happened when Evesham Micro's went pop.
Pom
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| 17th Dec 2009 9:27 pm |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
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cheers for the info pom, slight issue is i was working for an american company so cab and UK government is not really any use,
BUT financially i'm not panicking at present, as mentioned earlier i hold the cards and WILL be getting a good pay out etc etc.. 
the worry at the moment is that the D3 MAY have to go for something cheaper and to unlock some capital,, hopefully i wont have to cut my arm off,,,, one wife.......livid
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| 17th Dec 2009 9:35 pm |
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NJF
Member Since: 05 Oct 2007
Location: Gone
Posts: 2466
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Quote:slight issue is i was working for an american company so cab and UK government is not really any use
 They must still uphold the law in the UK, where you were employed.
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| 17th Dec 2009 9:37 pm |
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pom
Member Since: 10 Feb 2008
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 1790
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as previous poster said the owner of the company is irrelevant.
UK law has to be complied with when in the UK.
Pom
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| 17th Dec 2009 9:42 pm |
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