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filo
Member Since: 09 Jul 2010
Location: here, down in the north, where the fog is
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did you check the oil level after the flush following the zf guide?
it could be better for you to find someone able to perform a full flushing procedure under pressure using an appropriate machine such as the wynns or the spin
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 Mon May 16 2011 11:37am |
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johoso1
Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
Location: Copenhagen
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I fund this german flush system for 500-600 euros.
http://www.automatikoelwechselsystem.de
They have posted different videos of cars - also ZF in jaguars.
I think this is the way to go as i also have an old Daimler v12 from 82 and Jaguar Mk2 form 61 - both with autogearboxes.
The german has written a lot of facts about the autoboxes and the "sealed for life" concept. More or less he recommends gearfluid changed every 50.000 km
I think I will go for this solution  and do another cleaningfluid+flush with this equipment with my spare ZF-fluid.
Johan
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| Mon May 16 2011 11:53am |
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RSAChris
Member Since: 16 Apr 2010
Location: Centurion RSA
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Done mine on Friday...
I got the oil (8 litres) and the BMW sump pan and separate filter with seal and shorter bolts from ZF Manufacturing in Joburg.
Drained the oil as Filly described, but did not have his helper nearby... so when the car was started, the extension pipe flew out of the bucket and spew oil all over my garage... I jumped at it, grabbed it like a fire hose out of control and aimed for the bucket.... eventually got another 4 litres into the bucket... 
Then started to undo all the old filter pan screws (21 of them)... but the 9  ones situated just above the cross bars had me swearing... and wishing that my son with his long thin hands were there. Then spilled another liter or more over the only dry patch on the garage floor.... 
Spent some time cleaning up (actually resting my arms that totally did not want to work anymore) - uhm... I forgot to raise the car before draining the fluids......  so I was Leopard-crawling under the car...
Fitted new filter and pan... took me another few hours to tighten the screws... those hard to get at 9 ones....
Then put 5 liters in via the still disconnected oil cooler and refitted the hose. Started the car, went through the gears and put in another 1.5 liters when temp got to 40 degrees C.
I still did not fit the gearbox sump guard, I need to check for leaks....
Oh, it is still smooth and no mirracles to report, but it is clean and healthy now.
Also changed the brake disks, pads and sensors all round, and the cool blue intercooler hose too... 
Cheers
CS 2010 Disco 4 TDV6 SE
R2D3 the 2007 Disco 3 TDV6 SE... gone now
Romulus [Defender 110 CSW Td5] will always be missed
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| Wed Aug 10 2011 10:46am |
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filo
Member Since: 09 Jul 2010
Location: here, down in the north, where the fog is
Posts: 341
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RSAChris wrote:
Drained the oil as Filly described, but did not have his helper nearby... so when the car was started, the extension pipe flew out of the bucket and spew oil all over my garage... I jumped at it, grabbed it like a fire hose out of control and aimed for the bucket.... eventually got another 4 litres into the bucket...
same as my first attempt
round 5 liters all over the yard
spent half day washing the yard floor with gasoline and pressure washer... a real ing nightmare
can't report what SWMBO said when she came home... 
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| Wed Aug 10 2011 7:59pm |
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redjelly5000
Member Since: 18 Jul 2008
Location: Tregaron, Mid-Wales
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With regards to what oil to use in the UK, (not sure about availability elsewhere) I spent days researching this matter and spoke directly with the manufacturers of several products and detailed the reults of my research here:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic46311.html
I did mine with the Duradrive about 35k ago now and it's been fantastic since. My car works hard, 109k on the clock, and often has 3.5t on the hitch. In my research though, I also found out which ones are NOT suitable, and the manufacturers of Castrol Multi car, Millermatic, and also all Dexron 6 fluids say they do NOT meet the spec of Shell M1375.4 so be careful if you choose to use them. Club 19" Grabber AT's
D3 TDV6 HSE '54 plate Maya Gold (current)
D2 TD5 ES '99 (previous)
Defender TD5 swb hard top '54 plate (previous)
Defender 300tdi swb hard top '94 (previous)
All my servicing etc (that is all the stuff I can't do myself!) done by Cambrian 4x4 Farm near Lampeter. Highly recommended.
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| Fri Aug 12 2011 5:10pm |
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KOOS BEST
Member Since: 14 Feb 2010
Location: Mtunzini
Posts: 63
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL4ZhDlZAF4
This video shows a guy draining oil on a ZF 6HP26 from a Jaguar XK 8 . He uses a Mercron SP oil, some of the comments say it's a higher spec than the LIFEGUARD 6 oil from ZF.
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| Tue Nov 01 2011 4:39pm |
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vbrab
Member Since: 05 Jul 2011
Location: Pilbara
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Dear FILO, thankyou, most informative and innovative post for homestyle mega flush. Changing the pan is pretty straightforward and quite easy. (Easier than the dealers would have you believe.)
I bought steel pan and filter kit, with bolts, and 20l drum of oil from ZF direct (I am in Australia) and they were best price of anybody, including the 4000k freight charge to get it to me.
My steps were lift vehicle, drain oil into suitable container, undo rear box bolt (through round mount at rear of box, then jack up box, use Torx allen keys to get at end pan bolts, drop pan (more loose oil), swing to passengers side of car, pull down on tray and snap off filter. Make sure that seal on tube from filter comes out with tube, Easy replacment after that. I used Hylomar as seal on all surfaces of gasket and pan, and you already know how to replace oil. Replacing Mechatronic seal is a bit tricky/fiddly, I used surgical gloves to avoid bridging internal terminals through static. (Plenty of references on net about that point.)
But thank you for informative post on oil change, regards vbrab
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| Thu Nov 24 2011 12:20pm |
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filo
Member Since: 09 Jul 2010
Location: here, down in the north, where the fog is
Posts: 341
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Hey vbrab
glad you succeed in doing the job 
post the link of your fluid source just in case other chaps would like to get it from the same place
F.
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| Fri Nov 25 2011 6:23pm |
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Mike767
Member Since: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Congleton, Cheshire.
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Hey Filo!
This is my job for next week. Can you advise which is the outlet pipe? I guess it is the top one from your pictures.
Grazie molte!
Mike
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| Fri Jan 06 2012 11:32pm |
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filo
Member Since: 09 Jul 2010
Location: here, down in the north, where the fog is
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Hi Mike
i'm afraid but i can't remember at the mo. Better you ask someone who has recently done the job
btw it's easy to locate it if you ask swmbo or a kid to start the car and suddenly switch it off while you hold both the hoses in a transparent bottle.
sorry Mike
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| Sat Jan 07 2012 2:14pm |
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CUCO
Member Since: 27 May 2011
Location: Spain & Oleee!!!
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RSAChris wrote:
I got the oil (8 litres) and the BMW sump pan and separate filter with seal and shorter bolts from ZF Manufacturing in Joburg.
could you post please the BMW references of the BMW parts you needed please, im thinking in making the conversion to the steel pan in my next fluid change.
Thank you very much RSAChris!
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| Sun Jan 08 2012 11:21pm |
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RSAChris
Member Since: 16 Apr 2010
Location: Centurion RSA
Posts: 76
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Hi Cuco
I don't have the ZF part numbers - but I was told it is the parts that is used on the BMW X5 6-speed gearbox - it is the BMW 6HP26 – 6HP28 gearbox.
Cheers
CS 2010 Disco 4 TDV6 SE
R2D3 the 2007 Disco 3 TDV6 SE... gone now
Romulus [Defender 110 CSW Td5] will always be missed
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| Mon Jan 09 2012 10:08am |
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Mike767
Member Since: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Congleton, Cheshire.
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I have just completed this job thanks to Filo's excellent guide. I did a lot of research on which oil to use and eventually went with the Millermatic ATF DM. They recommend it for the D3 on their website and it cost me £55 for 10 litres.
The pipe that Filo is pointing at in his photo is the outlet, which I extended using an adapter and piece of garden hose. I then got the wife to run the engine until oil stopped coming out and got just under 4 litres in my bucket. In addition, I drained another litre at the filter sump and then replaced the plug.
To refill, I just connected a piece of (dry) garden hose to the union that the outflow had been connected to and hooked it up to a pressure garden spray which was big enough to take the 5 litres of Millermatic.
I drove the car about 10 miles and repeated the whole exercise again. There was a big improvement in the oil after the first flush so it should be pretty good after the second. Very easy job and it seems to have got rid of the shudders usually encountered on the hill on the way to the pub!
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