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Unless you want a light(ish) trolley jack to lift in and out of the car boot, I don't recommend the CTJ3000QL. I've knackered 2 - one had a valve go and the other twisted so it doesn't lift straight. The bigger jack has a much wider saddle, so it holds the chassis rails much more securely, and it also is much more strongly built and has a longer handle with much more leverage.
The downside is that it weighs a ton. I keep it in the garage and just trundle it out to change wheels.
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17th Sep 2007 8:20 pm
ronp
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Was going to get myself one of these Clarke CTJ300Gl Jacks at £40.11.
But Rob's comments above have put me off a little bit.
Trouble is, the next one - the CTJ3QlG3-J is £82.23.
That's double the price!!!
As I am only going to use this to change from Road Wheels to Off Road Wheels and back again, [lifting just one wheel at a time] which is my best bet/value?
Also bearing in mind - versus the Standard issue LR jack.
Going to Machine Mart on Monday to purchase, so all views appreciated.I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
20th Oct 2007 7:40 pm
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I got a good one from Costco and a pair of free 3 ton axle stands for about £58. Only thing is it's big.Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
20th Oct 2007 7:45 pm
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ronp wrote:
Was going to get myself one of these Clarke CTJ300Gl Jacks at £40.11.
But Rob's comments above have put me off a little bit.
Trouble is, the next one - the CTJ3QlG3-J is £82.23
Ron - my advice is DON'T buy the Clarke CTJ300Gl - I got one and first time I used it it slipped off the chassis- it has a very small saddle on it - lucky I had an axle stand there - also it creaks and groans trying to lift the D3 & it lost it's high-lift capacity
I took it back and changed it for the CTJ3QlG3-J. A much better jack. I also got the 6-ton axle stands as they will reach the 520mm height
20th Oct 2007 8:13 pm
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OK, forget the £40 one,(CTJ3000QL)..............What about the CTJ3000G 3T pro garage jack at £64.61..? It doesn't have the 'Quick Lift' facility, but looks to be about the same size saddle / strength / dimensions as the CTJ3QLG3-T (£82.23). Is the 'Quick Lift' really worth the extra dosh?
20th Oct 2007 10:47 pm
ronp
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Good find DND3
Well Machine Mart seem to hide this one.
When doing a range comparison with the other two jacks - it doesn't feature.
Also not featured in their ad in LROI
But yes, seems as good and same spec as the £82 one but without the QL system
As I'm not planning to change Lewis Hamiltons tyres, I don't really need to pay the extra £20 just to save a few seconds.
And there's something not quite right about paying double the price of the £41 jack to the £82 jack.
Therefore the CT3000G 3T is where my £65 is going!
Thanks DND3 I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
21st Oct 2007 10:28 am
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Sealey seem to be knocking some of theirs out cheap at the moment
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ronp wrote:
....Therefore the CT3000G 3T is where my £65 is going!
That seems to be a good choice
I didn't see that one when I went to MM but the QL feature does save a hell of a lot of pumping to reach the chassis when the D3 is at off-road height
21st Oct 2007 11:10 am
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Don't mind a bit of pumping TazDaz I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
21st Oct 2007 11:20 am
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Cheers ronp ... I may get one of these myself, as my 2t jack was struggling a bit when I last swapped my wheels over,( jacking under the wishbones), so I wouldn't like to trust it under the chassis lifting possibly 1/2 a D3. If you go to MM, compare it with the QL one side by side if you can, and go for whichever looks strongest/best value,and if there are any other differences. PS. Not averse to a bit of pumping either.
21st Oct 2007 4:35 pm
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ronp wrote:
Don't mind a bit of pumping TazDaz
well my excuse is that I'm old and feeble
21st Oct 2007 7:34 pm
DaveT
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Guys!
Why on earth do you want to balance the car half a metre up in the air on its chassis rail??
Far safer to jack under the wishbones - insert jack 'in line' with car.
Bear in mind that you are effectively only lifting 1/4 - 1/2 the car, so a 2t trolley is perfectly capable (but obviously still don't go under it without proper stands)
... what I'm saying is there's really no need for a monster trolley jack.
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21st Oct 2007 8:49 pm
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DaveT
Without offence -- I was advised the ONLY safe place to use a jack on was the same places(s) as the supplied jack goes - i.e. on the chassis.
Whether this is correct or not I don't know - but maybe it has something to do with the air-suspension?
21st Oct 2007 8:55 pm
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Quick question from an ignoramous - is the wishbone jacking 'point' the same as described in the Manual for Coil Sprung D3's?
In response to the previous post, I have seen quotes from AndrewS about jacking elsewhere (under wishbone) than the chassis rail on Air Sprung D3'sSteve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
21st Oct 2007 8:56 pm
DaveT
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Taz, sorry, didn't mean to be either offensive or patronising (must re-read before I post )
I've tried both ways & will now only jack under the 'wishbones'. You only lift the car a few inches, meaning the jack doesn't travel (height or rolling along the floor) anywhere near as far.
I confess the real reason I changed was that I watched how the tyre fitters jacked the car this way with no fuss at all, after all the struggle I'd been having trying to do it the 'proper' way. (tried the crap LR jack, then a bottle jack, then trolley jack on chassis...)
It'd be usefull to hear advice from LR professionals & from tyre fitters - any around? (again, sorry if I'm missing something earler in the thread)
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but the QL feature does save a hell of a lot of pumping to reach the chassis when the D3 is at off-road height
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