Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 762
both my d3 and d4 have had there props off several times,ive never changed the bolts but you will need to ensure every thing is free from rust before fitting a new unit and just to be safe i put a spot of loctite on the rear bolts
never had a problem yet fingers crossed please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
9th Mar 2023 6:39 pm
ronald.soak
Member Since: 29 Apr 2008
Location: London
Posts: 516
Having fitted all new before I think that I would probably fit new again at the the rear but would definitely not replace the 6 at the front or the C shaped washers.
I found it difficult to remove the rear Etorx bolts without damaging at least one of the heads and bought a pack of 5, which was the best deal at the time.
John
Edit. John Craddock currently want £9.99 inc p&p for 5 on eBay.
Individual bolts are £1.67 Inc vat but it's the delivery charge that costs you.
11th Mar 2023 3:24 am
nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4146
Found it.. if you only want to do it once then have a look at these .. not cheap but less than a new prop shaft every time!
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11th Mar 2023 7:53 am
ClassikFan
Member Since: 02 Nov 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1027
That Darkside kit looks interesting. Tempted to buy one now for when needed in the future.Just 'cause you got the power... that don't mean you got the right.
11th Mar 2023 8:55 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4400
The trouble with a 'last forever' centre bearing, is that the rear UJ runs too close to straight, and will fail anyway. UJ's like to run at a slight angle, and when straight they get a notch in the straight position.
All up, it's a poorly executed design. The rear prop is almost a service item!Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
11th Mar 2023 10:32 am
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 762
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
11th Mar 2023 10:54 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4400
eightfoot wrote:
both my d3 and d4 have had there props off several times,ive never changed the bolts
Same here. I've had my propshafts on and off several times. Never changed the bolts. If you use the correct socket, I don't see why they would need changing. They are not stretch bolts, they are nicely made fine pitch bolts with E Torx heads.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
11th Mar 2023 11:58 am
disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
Posts: 245
Thanks for all of the above guys. I feel a bit of a numpty having chased various wheel bearings as the source of the annoying noise. I had asked a garage to check the propshaft centre bearing specifically while the car was in for some other work and they said it was fine, which I believed instead of checking myself - until recently
So, several £££ down the pan when I should've just made sure I checked everything thoroughly first. Lessons eh!
Have had a nice new GKN propshaft delivered and planning to fit next weekend. The centre bearing material is so flimsy no wonder they wear out.
14th Mar 2023 5:28 pm
Captain Crosscheck
Member Since: 03 Sep 2021
Location: Oslo
Posts: 310
Add some Sikaflex for reinforcement
14th Mar 2023 7:32 pm
disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
Posts: 245
Little update for anyone interested...
Successfully replaced the rear prop shaft at the weekend with the replacement GKN. Wasn't a bad job and I'm enjoying working on the car. Getting the rear bolts torqued to spec whilst under the car was a pain
Centre bearing on the old shaft was pretty shabby so I'm glad to have replaced it. Is there any use for the old shaft or is it for the bin??
Annoyingly it hasn't cured the thrumming/pulsing/reverberating/low frequency vibrating sound (tricky to describe!) that happens I think at all speeds but more noticeable at 50mph+ especially when applying load. I am beginning to wonder if it's one of the diffs, or transfer box, or gearbox... though there are no other signs that the gearbox or transfer box are on their way out that I can tell.
Anyone have ideas? At this point I am just going to drive the car until something goes bang as I've spent enough chasing this noise though fortunately everything I've done probably needed doing anyway. Both diffs, transfer box, and gearbox are all original parts @ 245k miles.
27th Mar 2023 10:47 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4400
Old prop in the bin!
Welcome to Land Rover ownership! If you have an ear for noises you'll be forever chasing noises and worrying about bits that might fall off! It's a way of life! Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
27th Mar 2023 11:25 am
disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
Posts: 245
I do have an ear for noises... and a brain that gets annoyed that something isn't working as it should! It did take some convincing to get SWMBO to admit she could hear anything though so maybe I'm too tuned in to it. Though she is normally asleep in the passenger seat with the bun warmers on.
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fingers crossed 
no wonder they wear out.
