Should dealers be allowed on disco3.co.uk, providing they disclose that they are a dealer/specialist?
Yes
96%
96%
[75]
No
3%
3%
[3]
Total Votes: 78
LR Dealer
Member Since: 13 Oct 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 41
Should Dealers be allowed in disco3.co.uk?
I do seem to have poked a stick into a wasps nest by being here.
There are comments that dealers should not be allowed on this site, that they are hiding behind screen names and not being upfront about who they are, what they do and why?
I am not hiding. Look at my screen name.
I deeply enjoy what I do, I am proud to be working for Land Rover. I have driven and owned Land Rovers for over 15 years. My family own Land Rovers, young & old.
I am here to learn from owners, I will also gladly help anyone that wants advice on specifications (with the changes for 2007 model).
I will not assist in dealer or manufacturer bashing, the never ending expectation of more & more discounts or any technical matters (I hold no technical qualifications - that is why there are technicians in this world).
I have not joined into this forum to sell more cars.
But think of this;
Would you rather deal with someone with a passion for what they do, the brand they sell and willing to spend time on a forum engaging in witty banter with not just my own customers but people who a similarly passionate about the cars - or a shark in a suit?
I think I have said enough. If you do not want my participation in these forums I will ask the administrators of this site to remove my login. I will then return to the axis of evil and prepare to take over the world.
14th Oct 2006 10:47 am
Martin Site Admin and Owner
Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 18456
Well, as the administrator I feel I should say something
In my eyes, dealers are very welcome to participate on DISCO3 on any level provided it is non commercial - and so I've voted yes
DISCO3 is a large information sharing resource, and if dealers can help by providing information and can benefit from the information shared about problems with the vehicle or the sales/aftersales process then that is completely within the spirit of the site.
What would not be in the spirit is registering on here and exploiting the free and open nature of the site for a commercial benefit - LR Dealer, I know this doesn't apply to you
Martin06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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14th Oct 2006 10:54 am
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
As Martin says, anyone is welcome to contribute - and I would support and defend that... the only thing that would pi$$ me off is if it became a battleground between competing dealers or posts developed into thinly disguised sales pitches
hopefully we can all play nicely together and broaden the understanding of the needs of owners and sellers alike
It has to be a good thing, but we surely need them to be 'in the open' like you LrDealer.
A few of us have been told that our dealers 'look on here often'.
That is a start but let's try and 'work' together.Zermatt silver 06 reg.
Gone but not forgotten !!!
14th Oct 2006 11:12 am
DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 11412
I've got no problem with dealers who let us know they are a dealer. As long as we know who we are corresponding with, we can make an informed decision about the information they provide.
Dealers who pretend to be otherwise are a problem, but seeing as we don't know who they are anyway, what can we do?
Member Since: 08 Aug 2006
Location: Home of LR.
Posts: 2545
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As Martin says, anyone is welcome to contribute - and I would support and defend that... the only thing that would pi$$ me off is if it became a battleground between competing dealers or posts developed into thinly disguised sales pitches
Whilst I agree TFC and in principal I have no objections to any honest dealer being represented here, (to improve the quality of the D3 and the owning experience), I "worry" that what seemed to be an impartial forum, is starting to lean towards the manufacturer and lose it's impartiality.
I am not saying that every dealer registered will automatically argue "black is white" when responding to a negative thread, but it was always pleasant to find a useful bit of independent information or a tip or a trick that like minded individuals have posted for the benefit of all.
I suspect that when a dealer posts - it may not be with the benefit of all in mind. Or am I just too cynical?
Anyway that's my two'penneth, I will be voting Yes, as I still believe in the agency of individuals, unlike this current government, but that's another thread entirely....
14th Oct 2006 11:26 am
Martin Site Admin and Owner
Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 18456
rogue wrote:
I "worry" that what seemed to be an impartial forum, is starting to lean towards the manufacturer and lose it's impartiality.
I'm not quite sure how the presence of a few people employed by Land Rover dealers means that the site as a whole loses its impartiality.
It's not as if LR have any control over content on here
As I said above, the presence of dealership staff should help increase the breadth of knowledge, experience and information which is available on DISCO3.
Myself and the moderators work to control commercial posting, it is simply prohibited without financially supporting the site's running costs.
It is fairly obvious that a number of members do not trust dealers, I would hope that knowledgable and friendly participation by dealer staff will help to change this image. In my view DISCO3 is only bettered by contributions from all people with experience of the D3 - whether that's as an owner, mechanic, dealership manager, engineer or non-owning enthusiast (like myself).06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
Any issues with the site let me know!
I agree, as long as they come out of the closet! Have a nice day!
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14th Oct 2006 11:54 am
Gurvan
Member Since: 02 Jan 2005
Location: Germany... Not far from both the US and Hard German rock...
Posts: 1089
Why not ?
If it is clear and obvious !
Maybe there should be something close to the name of the poster that will tell of an official connection to L.R like, for instance, an L.R badge or something like that...
But I am not holding my breath waiting for MY dealership to show up online ! They might not even speak English ! Georgia On My Mind...
14th Oct 2006 11:59 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50934
I have voted yes
I think LR Dealer and I got off on the wrong foot but I hope he understands that some of his early posts did have a commercial angle to them and as a regular contributer, of nonsense or otherwise, there was an element of site protectionism in my responses.
I welcome dealers to the site providing that they are open about their general identity ....and are prepared to take the rough with the smooth in terms of some members views about their standards of service. ......and I would like to see some advice that will assist members who are having persistent problems (whether via post or PM).
And as TFC says no brawling with other dealers ........or we'll have to send the boys around 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
14th Oct 2006 12:09 pm
WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3637
I agree with Martin
Martin wrote:
DISCO3 is a large information sharing resource, and if dealers can help by providing information and can benefit from the information shared about problems with the vehicle or the sales/aftersales process then that is completely within the spirit of the site.
I would also say that it is up to the individual whether they want to make it known they are a dealer or are involved with Land Rover.
I'm voting yes.1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
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14th Oct 2006 12:11 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72788
No problem, if they are on here anyway it would be better to know. What I'd hope not to see is a "He said this, she said that" slagging between a member & dealer, we need that restricted to just between member & member!!!
14th Oct 2006 12:35 pm
dylansdad
Member Since: 04 Apr 2006
Location: Solihull
Posts: 745
pleeeeeasse could we start this vote again with a 'yes, but members should declare connection to LR or dealership.'
I dont want to vote for either option given at present and we are already 124 views into voting 2004 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi Silver
14th Oct 2006 1:23 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50934
The complication as I see it DD is how will you know??21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
14th Oct 2006 1:25 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72788
Maybe the dealers can all use the LR logo, the dodgy ones can have it trembling????
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