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| What signal did your FBH need to tell it to run? |
| Mine was W-BUS |
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| Mine was OUT |
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| Mine didn't work at all |
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SHARKYSHARKS
Member Since: 20 Dec 2008
Location: Saddleworth Lancs
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Greetings oh God of hot mornings, Well at last after persevering with my my timer i finally got it to run.
On the initial fit all that i got was ticking at the FBH so after checking and re checking my wiring i came to the conclusion that my FBH was locked out so i tried as mentioned in all the numerous discussions on this topic, and tried to reset it by disconnecting the main power feed to the FBH, didn't work so tried all other cures mentioned on this subject, then after numerous cold dark hours and thinking of putting my timer back on EBAY i came on a brain wave, and it worked.
As i was testing my timer with bonnet open and the car was sensing this, i manually closed the bonnet catch with a screw driver, thus closing the bonnet switch and eliminating the bonnet open alert on the dash,and then go through the reset procedure again, after the brake light and radio lights had gone out prior to closing bonnet switch
1. disconnect main power plug to FBH
2. pull fuse 28 main eng compartment
3 . press start on timer
4. if the FBH does not fire pull fuse again, 10 secs put fuse back in and press start again should now fire if it does n't go through steps 2-4 until it does, worked for me .....
My er indoors is now very gratefull as she will have hot mornings in more ways than one 
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 Sat Feb 14 2009 6:23pm |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
Posts: 1925
 
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Has anyone found a cheaper supplier for the GSM control units? they are £139 delivered on ebay, surely they must be available cheaper than that?
Looking at adding this modification before I go to Austria next year!
 A dog is truly man's best friend, Don't believe me? Well lock your wife and your dog in the boot of your car and 2 hours later open it and see who's happy to see you 
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| Tue Dec 22 2009 7:26pm |
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SHARKYSHARKS
Member Since: 20 Dec 2008
Location: Saddleworth Lancs
Posts: 541
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Hi ya J@mes sorry for the delay... I got a standard remote control unit and keyfob from Maplins £29.99 I think works well on mine and simple to fit..tryit cheaper than the gsm version. 12 Litre Scania T cab (Current)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
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| Thu Dec 24 2009 1:00pm |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
Posts: 1925
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Yeh I have seen those, but I am drawn towards the GSM ones so I can ring it to get it to heat - useful for if I've been out in the woods with the dog or if I'm about to finish shooting etc etc  A dog is truly man's best friend, Don't believe me? Well lock your wife and your dog in the boot of your car and 2 hours later open it and see who's happy to see you
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| Wed Dec 30 2009 1:32pm |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 4807
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I guess there isnt anything stopping you just adding a switch to manually turn the FBH on, so nip out, turn it on, have breakfast, the head out - anybody done this?
Al TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV, BAS Electrickery - and obligatory D3 sticker
Old - TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
If you think you are too small to make a difference - you've never shared a bedroom with a mosquito
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| Sun Jan 10 2010 11:18am |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
Posts: 1925
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I think if you "wake" the car up by unlocking it then the timer won't be able to start?
sure I read this somewhere! A dog is truly man's best friend, Don't believe me? Well lock your wife and your dog in the boot of your car and 2 hours later open it and see who's happy to see you
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| Sun Jan 10 2010 3:12pm |
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jdhx
Member Since: 16 May 2009
Location: Dorset
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al cope wrote:I guess there isnt anything stopping you just adding a switch to manually turn the FBH on, so nip out, turn it on, have breakfast, the head out - anybody done this?
"If you think it is that simple then you don't understand the problem  "
The signal to start heating is not simply 12v but a W-BUS command sequence, secondly if the car has just been unlocked it wouldn't work even if you could generate it. The very ingenious stapldm sussed this out and devised a way to use a Webasto 1533 timer to produce the W-BUS command and an rf remote to press its "heat now" button without having to unlock the car.
All this of course is contained in the earlier posts in this thread so RTFT. D3 TDV6 HSE MY08
Saab 9-5 Aero
MGB Roadster
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| Wed Jan 13 2010 9:08am |
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discoBizz
Member Since: 20 Sep 2008
Location: Here...
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Does anyone know where to find the 1533 these days? Would Webasto still produce it? Can an alternative be used from their current range if not?
Cheers!
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| Tue Jan 19 2010 10:21am |
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jdhx
Member Since: 16 May 2009
Location: Dorset
Posts: 96
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I bought one on ebay a few days ago. Seller sarkblue, £60. There have been others in the last couple of months. D3 TDV6 HSE MY08
Saab 9-5 Aero
MGB Roadster
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| Tue Jan 19 2010 12:38pm |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 4807
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jdhx - you are right, I didnt fully understand the issue, even after reading the original posts, which is why I asked the question, but please dont tell me to RTFT, as if I took that approach to all the stupid questions I've provided answers for, quite a few folks would still be stuck.
I hope you practice what you preach
Al
edited - JDHX - thanks for the email, replied. Al TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV, BAS Electrickery - and obligatory D3 sticker
Old - TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
If you think you are too small to make a difference - you've never shared a bedroom with a mosquito
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| Tue Jan 19 2010 1:24pm |
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chazzor10
Member Since: 07 Jan 2010
Location: leicester
Posts: 2
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Only just joined so hope this works!
Firstly thanks to stabldm for the FBH remote instructions, excellent and easy to understand. Has anyone progressed this further by modifying the cabin fans to come once the FBH has been started from timer or remote?
Cheers
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| Wed Jan 20 2010 5:05pm |
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jdhx
Member Since: 16 May 2009
Location: Dorset
Posts: 96
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I have just completed my Webasto remote control project based on the excellent instructions by stapldm.
I used a two channel remote from Maplin to give an on button and an off button plus a sounder to indicate that the unit had reacted to the command and an led (currently poking through the radiator grill) to show that the FBH is on or about to start. I did not want to have the timer inside the car so the whole thing is built into a box installed under the bonnet.
The wiring diagram is here and a wiring description and parts list here. In my case there is only one wire soldered into the Webasto (the lower one) as the upper one is at earth potential anyway.
I will put all this in the wiki in due course.
Thanks again to stapldm for finishing what LR started! D3 TDV6 HSE MY08
Saab 9-5 Aero
MGB Roadster
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| Sun Jan 31 2010 9:14pm |
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hensoni
Member Since: 01 Oct 2007
Location: Sleepy Somerset
Posts: 519
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Quote:Has anyone progressed this further by modifying the cabin fans to come once the FBH has been started
Many have tried, including LR themselves, Webasto and distinguished members of this forum.
None have succeeded.
The problem resides with the integrated nature of the climate control system. It is controlled by the vehicle's CANbus so you need to be able to change the software code driving everything. LR gave up in 2005 or thereabouts.
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| Mon Feb 01 2010 12:37pm |
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chazzor10
Member Since: 07 Jan 2010
Location: leicester
Posts: 2
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Thanks for the response hensoni, shame it can't be done but at least I now have a warm engine in the morning.
Cheers
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| Tue Feb 02 2010 10:24am |
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dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
Posts: 1090
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Read on here that prior to switching off engine, if you max the fan, set to max temp, select fan blowing to upper cabin (screen), choose a long heating time, some warmth will enter the cabin, probably by convection.
I must try this. There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
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