Gareth
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What is the tank fill up capacity? and what range do you get from it? This is very interesting, I ran a D2 V8 LPG for 2 years and loved it.
I did have an engine failure due to a dropped cylinder liner, but Land Rover would not pay even though it was only just out of warranty. They said that they could not consider it, even though it was a known issue.
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 25th Oct 2005 9:47 am |
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Monkeyhanger
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Hartlepool
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The tank capacity is 120 litres though you will know you don't get to use it all. I've not taken it to the limit yet cause the alarm is that loud I'd rather suffer the expense of the petrol than the surgery to my eardrums.
The most I've put in it so far is 71 litres. I was playing hard in the Highlands and so haven't been paying much attention to the economy. The computer, which reads the petrol use has an average of 16.9 mpg over the whole weekend and I recon the LPG will be about 15 mpg. I think it will be somewhere near 3-4 miles per litre depending on the speeds and manner I drive at. I have had the computer down to 4.5 mpg for a white knuckle ride or 24 mpg listening to motzart with the cruise on.
Later this week,now it's run in, I'm going to fit "Ecoflow" magnets to the fuelline. That should give me another 5-10 % increase in fuel/performance. I'll then start keeping a record of sensible driving and see what I get.
Leo
P.S. What are you doing cooking bacon on the rear door? Do you have someone else to clean all the spattered fat off the upholstery?
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| 25th Oct 2005 10:04 am |
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Gareth
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Monkeyhanger wrote:P.S. What are you doing cooking bacon on the rear door? Do you have someone else to clean all the spattered fat off the upholstery?
 You can't beat the smell of bacon in the morning!
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| 25th Oct 2005 10:06 am |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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Not a good idea using the spare wheel well, this forms part of the rear crash protection system and I guess LPG tanks aren't good things to smash  DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
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| 25th Oct 2005 10:21 am |
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Gareth
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Pelyma wrote:Not a good idea using the spare wheel well, this forms part of the rear crash protection system and I guess LPG tanks aren't good things to smash
Not ideal, but the tanks are very very strong, however I would not like to find out if it was strong enough to take a rear end shunt.
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| 25th Oct 2005 10:35 am |
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BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
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Pelyma wrote:Not a good idea using the spare wheel well, this forms part of the rear crash protection system and I guess LPG tanks aren't good things to smash
Pelyma, that is very true indeed and no insurance company in the world would endorse that one. There is a picture on site somewhere showing the result of a rear end shunt and how the wheel saved the rear. If a gas tank had been in or at the back, heaven forbid. I think little 5 put it there?
Its not the tank its the leakage that kills. Tanks can be tested to very high pressures and for crashes, but the pipes they seem to forget.
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| 25th Oct 2005 10:38 am |
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minicabelemet
Member Since: 28 Oct 2005
Location: Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey
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Thanks Leo for letting me know (over the phone on Wednesday) about your LPG conversion. I made my mind: there is no way a chipped TDV6 can be better than a V8 on LPG. I would appreciate however if you could let us all know about the mpg that you get on different roads, and, any problems incurred(if any!) with your Disco. Something else, what is that Ecoflow magnet? On what principle does it work? How can improve mpg?
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| 28th Oct 2005 12:04 pm |
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Monkeyhanger
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Hartlepool
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Sorry for not replying earlier. You know what it's like, go out in the morning for a drive and before you know it, three days have gone by. I love my Disco 3!
Right! After about five refils I gave up keeping record cause I began to play hard and you don't want to know the worst consumption I had ( it showed 4.5mpg on the computer but evened out on the long runs.) Anyway on Friday,I sat it on a dual carraige-way and set the cruise control at 56mph, supposed to be the optimum speed for efficiency. Sat back and turned the stereo up. Over about 50 miles it averaged about 20 mpg petrol ( computer). As gas is 85% as efficient as petrol that means 17 mpg or 3.7miles per litre at 35p per litre. Compare that against the diesel ( 30 mpg) at 96p per litre and it equates to 52 mpg. I think I can live with that.
From the start, the car has a flat spot when pulling away on kick down, a bit like the turbo lag on diesel which you don't get with the petrol. Andrew Reed from AMR Autos actually pointed this problem out to me as I wouldn't have noticed it. The performance once it takes off is still the same as petrol and puts a smile straight on your face. As he is a perfectionist, the car is going back in again tomorrow and he is going to fit bigger injectors which he states will not use any more fuel. I'll keep you posted on the improvements and efficiendy.
The Ecoflow magnet is a little device which you mount next to the fuel line. Don't know how it actually works but I think it sorts the positive and negative ions in the fuel and instead of the fuel being thrown into the cylinders higaldy pigaldy, it lines them all up like marching soldiers and it flows more efficiently. It's supposed to give 5-10% more power or if you don't use it, 5-10% more mpg. There are those who say it doesn't do any good but my friend Gillian who sells them and also has a Disco 3, swears by them. Even Andrew Reed agrees they work. Look on the internet for Ecoflow. You can fit them to anything that carries a flowing liquid, cars, boats, even your heating system. If you want to order any then I'd recommend my friend.I'll pass on your e mail if you're interested.
Leo
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| 30th Oct 2005 6:38 pm |
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Monkeyhanger
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Hartlepool
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ps,
Forgot to mention, my insurance had gone up from £260 for the TDV6 to £390 for the V8. However when they received the LPG conversion certificate I managed to get it for £305 fully comp with two named drivers. Don't know if it's because of the LPG or not but I'm certainly not complaining.
Leo
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| 30th Oct 2005 6:42 pm |
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KL
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Monkeyhanger wrote:ps,
Forgot to mention, my insurance had gone up from £260 for the TDV6 to £390 for the V8.
£260 for TDV6 insurance! Most people seem to pay double or triple that. At a guess then you must be a 70 year old monk with limited mileage policy in an area devoid of any cars or young twoccers Discovery 3 tdv6 7 seat Buckingham Blue
Had it since new - sold Jun 17 after 12 years and 214,000 miles
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| 31st Oct 2005 9:40 am |
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Nickhearne
Member Since: 28 May 2005
Location: Beaconsfield Bucks
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kevinlally wrote:Monkeyhanger wrote:ps,
Forgot to mention, my insurance had gone up from £260 for the TDV6 to £390 for the V8.
£260 for TDV6 insurance! Most people seem to pay double or triple that. At a guess then you must be a 70 year old monk with limited mileage policy in an area devoid of any cars or young twoccers
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| 31st Oct 2005 6:06 pm |
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Monkeyhanger
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Hartlepool
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Just cause I've got a couple of dirty habits doesn't mean I'm a monk. Yes,full no claims bonus, over 50 and specialist Mutual insurance similar to the Farmers Union. Incidently got the new injectors fitted to the car today and the difference is unbelievable.There's next to no lag now when you put your foot down and the power seams to have increased as well. I'll let you know how the economy is when I've stopped enjoying myself.
Leo
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| 31st Oct 2005 9:20 pm |
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minicabelemet
Member Since: 28 Oct 2005
Location: Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey
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Leo! Please get me out of Mr Turbochips! The more I read about his upgrades the more I want to go for the TDV6. Get us some positive feed back about the LPG so we can all go green(V8 I mean!). Cheers
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| 31st Oct 2005 10:39 pm |
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Monkeyhanger
Member Since: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Hartlepool
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Sorry,can't magic anything else up.What you see is what you get.Excellent performance with 10p per mile economy, reduced road tax and no London congestion charges ( though that doesn't effect me, where's London again?).The V8 is far quieter ( even though the TDV6 is quiet for a diesel) and the very good stereo is even better.The only down side is that the goverment are desperate to tax it evenmore. I know it's coming, it's just a matter of how many years. That said if it stays proportionate to diesel, I still win.
Whichever one you decide to get,your still going to get an excellent car.
Leo
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| 1st Nov 2005 8:11 am |
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minicabelemet
Member Since: 28 Oct 2005
Location: Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey
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Leo! Can't wait for the mpg data. It looks that Andrew managed to get it right. If the car is 90% as good on LPG as it is on petrol, then I see no reason not to buy it. About government taxation, there will be a 1p/litre per year increase in duty until 2008. Don't know what will be after. So you can stil enjoy it for some years to come. Thanks again for all the info.
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| 1st Nov 2005 10:26 pm |
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