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I look at it this way, we've had a good innings, may be now it's time to give the ants a chance....
(coulnt find an ant, so decided to be reincarnated as an Aardvark? They eats ants dont they? )
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25th Jul 2006 2:23 pm
MG D3 Decade
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Surrey
Posts: 217
This is unbelievable! My gas central heating boiler produces more CO2 than my D3 per year!! Where will they draw the line? I assume that they want everyone to drive Smart car or bicycles and live in a sad little bed-sit shivering in the winter. I guess the main problem with these types is that they are so consumed with their own little sad world and they lack the motivation and enthusiasm to make their own life fullfilled and worthy and so have to pick on folk who are succesful. And of course success brings the finer things in life: a nice house and comfortable home, healthy family, foreign holidays, an expensive car(s) etc.....
Seems to me that most members of Greenpeace do not have any of these things and like to live the life of a monk (sack-cloth and ashes!!). And some whilst they decry 4X4's they commit all the other CO2 'crimes.'
My D3 is very economical in actual fact. It does 30mpg on a run and can hold 7 adults (or the same as 2 smaller cars).
If these lunatics begin to get enough air-time, pretty soon they will be dictating not only what we drive, but where we live, what we do as pass-times/foregn holidays. What a boring world that would be eh? What would happen to all the ambitious people who seek a nicer life and why would anyone bother about going to university....I could rant on!!!!!MG
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25th Jul 2006 2:48 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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MG wrote:
.....they want everyone to drive Smart car
I had a Smart Roadster, little flappy paddle pocket rocket! Was great for parking where old D2 was just too big. I miss that little fella.
MG Best time to go to Uni is after being successful. No more stress, all that free time & the babes (especially in summer!!!). U just have to put up with a load of nutters. Mind U most people when they saw me in the D2 were commenting "How can U afford that?", answer -" I worked for a living for 18 years!".
25th Jul 2006 3:02 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23404
MG wrote:
.....they want everyone to drive Smart car
Our Smart ForTwo is one of the most useful & fun vehicles we have ever owned. I put wider wheels on it & now it handles like a kart, hilarious to drive and very roomy. Surprisingly quick off the mark as well, great fun can be had at traffic lights. I'm always amused by the muppets that can't cope with being burned off by a Smart.
Before anyone starts, yes I would rather be in a crash in a D3, but I'd rather be in a crash in a Smart than a lot of other small cars.
Never got more than 39mpg though, but that could be down to the way we drive it
I had a Smart Roadster, little flappy paddle pocket rocket! Was great for parking where old D2 was just too big. I miss that little fella.
Just bought a Brabus one as a commute car for my 75 mile + per day trip to work.
Lots of go-kart style fun and I'm getting over 60mpg. The only problems are
-remembering to put petrol in the Roadster and diesel in the D3
-remembering not to crash through potholes and speed bumps in the Roadster. I've already 'grounded' the Roadster Discovery 3 tdv6 7 seat Buckingham Blue
Had it since new - sold Jun 17 after 12 years and 214,000 miles
25th Jul 2006 3:29 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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Seriously regret selling my roadster (depreciation was eyewatering). But then would not have been allowed to get my D3! Such is life!
25th Jul 2006 3:32 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
Back on topic, as I have said before 4x4s are the new fox hunting. Banning hunting has made no difference and neither would banning 4x4s. It is the politics of envy, you are seem as a toff because you have a big car, I was seen as a toff because I followed a pack of hounds, neither is true but these people never deal in truths just sound bites - hence we have A B Liar for 3 terms. DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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25th Jul 2006 3:46 pm
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
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So as a Hunter with a 4x4 I'm stuffed
25th Jul 2006 4:08 pm
Pelyma
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Welcome to the gang Ken, I course as well DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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25th Jul 2006 4:16 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Pelyma, I agree with what you say, most "Anti" action is indeed "class" based.
Apart from a few high profile fox hunts, most hunt supporters & hunt servants are country folk who are most certainly not "toffs". Indeed most of them just scrape a living from very poorly paid jobs.
For every new 4X4, there are many more old Land Rovers & Jap 4X4's used by country folk to enable them to carry out their work etc.
Unfortunately, most "Anti's" are urban/city dwellers & know very little if anything about the lifes of these people. It is these country folk that are worst affected by all this nonsense, sadly they are often not very eloquent & shy of the press etc. Therefore spokes people for their cause are often or not Sir/Lady Toffeenose-Plumaccent which just further fuels the "Anti's".
If there was say a ban on 4X4's in cities, these countryfolk would be virtually stuck, as public transport in many rural areas is at best limited.
It makes me mad all this " Anti" bo**ox
25th Jul 2006 4:58 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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Maybe, we should make our own pro-4x4 film, stating the truthful facts, and portraying 4x4 ownership as it should be, i.e freedom in the enviroment, without destroying it.
The Greenpeace movie looked professionaly done. Does anyone know how to go about it. Any budding movie makers here? How much would it cost?
Actually, I think this would be better than clogging up central London with D3's
This could then be ditributed in exactly the same way as GP has done. i.e on the web via links and word of mouth.
25th Jul 2006 6:21 pm
gasdoc
Member Since: 28 Mar 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 24
this file is very much landrover discovery and range rover specific.. by Dr Peter Wells at Cardiff Business School’s Centre for Automotive Industry Research.
I read this today and whilst the guy obviously has a B in his bonnet about 4x4's in general and LR in particular, much of what he says is true, although presented in a rather biased manner.
I am the first to admit, that although I live in the countryside of cornwall, have 4 dogs and tow a caravan, my D3 probably exceeds my requirements and I could find an environmentally more friendly alternative. However, I find the vehicle extremely comfortable, have an excellent local dealer, I love the look of the thing and I don't want to change it. My house is bigger than I need, when I lived in London I bought Gucci suits that cost far too much, I like expensive wine and I work **** hard to get what I want. Most people other than Greenpeace saints have their luxuries and excesses and outside of the old communist block society is happy for people to indulge themselves. In recognition of the need to be more economical we have bought ourselves a new (old model) Freelander to use as a run-around , which will save on some deisel I am sure. I also clear up my own dog when out and about too although I am not sure of the environmental saving this makes.
Found this on another forum, but we need to spread the word and complain back.
Suggest email to ASA or your MP. They are inciting bullying in the workplace now. How low can they go?
Remember, this is a free country, we do not need this sh**.
No offence, and I do believe the people responsible for the 'gas guzzler' site are idiots (considering my car uses as much fuel as a large family sedan, or as I have said before is equivalent to an MPV), but posting this site link just gives them more coverage on the net. They already get enough in other forms of media.
That's my 2 cents.
26th Jul 2006 12:11 am
SN
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Gareth wrote:
Maybe, we should make our own pro-4x4 film, stating the truthful facts, and portraying 4x4 ownership as it should be, i.e freedom in the enviroment, without destroying it.
The Greenpeace movie looked professionaly done. Does anyone know how to go about it. Any budding movie makers here? How much would it cost?
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when out and about too although I am not sure of the environmental saving this makes. 
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