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How on earth did you survive the immediate deep recession following the vote Moo?Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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7th Jun 2018 11:13 pm
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highlands wrote:
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I am interested in the parallels
As your saying goes: 'rubbish'
You were after a cheap point, almost certainly copied from somewhere else.
It's amazing to think that I had to copy it from a Hansard related source....what else would you anticipate...I write it myself?
The point he makes is perfectly valid and in context for any format of referendum.
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7th Jun 2018 11:19 pm
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7th Jun 2018 11:22 pm
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So why quote this then?
highlands wrote:
How on earth did you survive the immediate deep recession following the vote Moo?
Lets just remember that the £ bombed and we are still one of the worst performing economies
7th Jun 2018 11:29 pm
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As for 'valid for any referendum' can you not see there is a difference between stating concerns on what is decided beforehand on a referendum where there is no negotiation with a 3rd party required and one where there is?
As for Bregret, the biggest issue I and many on that side have is that we were told various things by BOTH Remain and Leave.
e.g. We WILL leave the Customs Union and leave the Single Market.
Unfortunately, Remainers hold the 2 major offices of State and Parliament is stuffed with Remainers and they are suffering collective amnesia on what was said in the Referendum.
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7th Jun 2018 11:31 pm
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Boris Johnson
2016: "A door has magically opened in our lives. We can see the sunlit meadows beyond."
Boris Johnson today
2018: "I don't want anybody to panic during the meltdown"
For clarity, these are Boris Johnson's words certainly copied from somewhere else ...they are not mine
7th Jun 2018 11:43 pm
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highlands wrote:
How on earth did you survive the immediate deep recession following the vote Moo?
The reality is what is happening now and now is not good. If its this bad now as people are finding out the reality and truth, how will it be better in the future?New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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DG, you cut the Boris quote too short. Here’s what he said:
Quote:
You’ve got to face the fact there may now be a meltdown. OK? I don’t want anybody to panic during the meltdown. No panic. Pro bono publico, no bloody panic. It’s going to be all right in the end.
I’m not sure when “the end” will be, but I suppose he meant to say that in the long run we’re all dead.MY91 110 CSW, so long ago I can barely remember it - sold
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only posted a couple of times in this thread as didn’t want to get sucked into it...
But now that Boris has told everyone “it’s going to ba all right” I must say I don’t know what the problem is anymore. Might even want to lock the thread now
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You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Not long ago, a Government would have fallen on their sword for 1% of the fiasco they have displayed.
Are we getting more tolerant or just totally unconcerned and unconnected with the democratic process?
One thinge for sure, we are a joke with just about every other country in the world.
8th Jun 2018 8:26 am
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And this whole fiasco was to appease a small but vocal minority in the Tory party.
Knowing what we know know as we go through the process, hand on heart, do leavers really believe that people would still vote to leave?
Ideology vs reality. Its a complete fack up.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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8th Jun 2018 8:31 am
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Cameron was to blame for not thinking he could loose the vote and consequently not having a contingency plan, then bailing out. He put us in the brown stuff, then ran away.
A combination of factors then led to the Pinky and Perky show we have today.
No one voted for the screw up that presently exists, but it’s no good people saying we should have a rerun of the vote. You concede that then you set a dangerous president when ever you have a referendum with a result some people object to.
We should however get ourselves out of the EU a lot quicker and with less complications than we seem to be doing, but with the present Government, that’s not going to happen.
8th Jun 2018 8:50 am
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I would suggest the Bregret is to do with the way the Government and Parliament are handling this, not Brexit itself.
The 'meltdown' is the undoubted mess in the handling of the negotiations.
This whole current fiasco is the result of "trying to appease a small but vocal minority in the Tory party"...the hardline Europhiles who would side with Labour and the SNP rather than carry out the decision of the referendum and the promise of the manifesto on which they stood.Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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Moo wrote:
Knowing what we know know as we go through the process, hand on heart, do leavers really believe that people would still vote to leave?
Yes - and the process is merely confirming why!
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