BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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I was born at an age that anyones introduction to electronics meant you must totally appreciate and worship the origional AVO Meter.
Never has bakalite been better used.
Things have changed and become all plastic, modern and digital, but yet somehow this true icon remains as a test standard never to be forgotten.
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engebo
Member Since: 30 May 2010
Location: Oslo
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VIN nr missing on the new CJB 
The old one back in car and all is back to "normal"
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| 17th Feb 2014 10:33 pm |
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stchris
Member Since: 13 Oct 2013
Location: Warwick
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Well Guys a big THANK YOU from me, my BCM is back on line and working normally.
I get the impression Chris and the team have been working their socks off with this problem.
I had resigned myself to the possibility of buying a new BCM but you guys really came up trumps.
Again
Many thanks
Chris 
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| 17th Feb 2014 11:35 pm |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Great news, I know they have gone the extra mile to sort this error out..
Flack 
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| 17th Feb 2014 11:37 pm |
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stchris
Member Since: 13 Oct 2013
Location: Warwick
Posts: 335
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Cheers Flack,
To be fair the error was some dimwit who thought he didn't need to hook up another power source to his fully charged battery 
Lesson learnt!
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| 17th Feb 2014 11:49 pm |
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tomthumb
Member Since: 04 Dec 2012
Location: W.Mids
Posts: 199
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I've been folowing your saga,
Glad its all sorted for ya now...
Tom RRSport MY12hse but don't hold that against lill o me
Hybrid TV, cubby Fridge, Surround Camera's, Sun Roof.
Disco 3 MY05hse Sadly gone
All alone in my own little world,
But everybody knows me there, so I'm ok.
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| 18th Feb 2014 12:14 am |
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stchris
Member Since: 13 Oct 2013
Location: Warwick
Posts: 335
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Cheers Tom!
It's been a bit epic but got there in the end!!
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| 18th Feb 2014 12:42 am |
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gvw
Member Since: 16 Jan 2012
Location: South Yorkshire
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That's good news
Can you share with us what you did to get it working again 
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| 18th Feb 2014 9:41 am |
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stchris
Member Since: 13 Oct 2013
Location: Warwick
Posts: 335
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Yes mate,
It was mainly down to Blackbox Solutions the supplier of my Navocom Evolution.
I made the mistake of trying to flash the BCM with no extra power supplied as I'd presumed the fully charged new battery would suffice...............How wrong was I !
This pretty much killed the BCM (software), I went back to BBS and although they didn't have an immediate solution because this was a new problem to them, Chris and the team worked at it until a solution was found.
They e-mailed a software update that they'd been working on flat out for about a week, I downloaded it following their instructions and "hey presto" it leaped back into life again with no need to re-code the keys or anything.
I really can't sing thier praises enough
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| 18th Feb 2014 4:39 pm |
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Hairy Dan
Member Since: 19 Jan 2011
Location: Co. Durham
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Glad you got it sorted, I've been following your trials and tribulations on here and the other forum Cheers Ian
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| 18th Feb 2014 4:48 pm |
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MarkOne
Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
Location: County Antrim
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Happy days you will be glad that's over.
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| 18th Feb 2014 4:49 pm |
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bbyer
Member Since: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta
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That sort of performance is quite impressive on the part of BlackBox. I guess a warning instruction will have to be added to each software update something to the effect of Fully Charged Battery is not enough; connect at least a 25 amp battery charger to the vehicle.
I know at my local dealership, they just hate, more correctly fear doing anything with their T4 as they do not have reliable shop power.
Even doing the service reset successfully is considered an achievement and is billed as such.
They will hook up a battery charger and be running a fully charged T4 laptop; the power flicks, and all is maybe OK or not. When on flat rate, just the doubt makes them not want to do any upgrades etc.
Anyway, the efforts of the BlackBox people are much appreciated as I think as our 3's get older, we will have to do the computer stuff ourselves. The dealers will have new systems for the newer vehicles; LR will not keep the new stuff backwards compatible and it will be up to the individual vehicle owners to look after themselves.
In other words, we will need BlackBox even more or have to throw our 3's away and get a new vehicle that is supported - kind of the way computers already are.
I see Microsoft is stopping support of Windows XP in April of this year - that sort of thing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25758308 2005 LR3 HSE 4.4L AJ-V8 petrol; Traxide Dual Battery; PIAA 2500K Yellow Ion H11 Fog Light bulbs; CounterAct LT-2 Capacitive Corrosion control; LLumar AIR80 Blue clear Infra Red blocking side window film; Liftgate manual release; Schrader Valve "air in" mod to OEM air suspension reservoir tank; Akebono ceramic pads; OEM solid vented discs; LR4 design hitch receiver; Wiggs D4 MOST bluetooth module; Clock on the Dash; 3 Flash signal light mod; Backup Camera; 2015/16 Nav Data update.
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| 18th Feb 2014 5:00 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Thank you all for your kind comments of praise and appreciation for us here at BBS going the extra mile and being un relenting in our efforts to sort this particular BCU/CJB flashing problem out and get those affected fully sorted.
Indeed we will be adding additional warnings bbyer
It does seem that this particular flashing problem caused by the BCU/CJB unit itself is well know to LR and is another reason for even dealers to fear doing any flashing.
I use the word "another", because although this case relates specifically to the BCU/CJB ECU, dealers may fear flashing in general due to their encountering other problems that have resulted in them having to apply expensive fixes / ECU replacing to solve problems seemingly caused by failed flashes.
Here is an example.
On most later Vehicles like the D3 etc, the Automatic Gearbox ECU is actually built into the Gearbox itself. It seems that when reflashing, the temperature of the Gearbox and therefore the ECU is significant and when above 85 degrees can result in a failed re flash.
So in the dealers SDD LR added a diagnostic pre read of the gearbox temperature to ensure it was below 85 Degrees.
Unfortunately after a failed re flash for any other reason, the Gearbox ECU was unable to diagnostically provide the temperature and so the SDD would not allow another attempt resulting in many un reqired gear box replacing.
No matter what the cause or reason, we here at BBS are but human beings and simply cannot point fingers, argue blame, or shrug our shoulders when someone is in the most unfortunate position of having an unusable vehicle.
You cannot make an omlette without breaking some eggs, but when it all goes Pete Tong, it is what you then do about it that really matters in the end.
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| 18th Feb 2014 6:31 pm |
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gvw
Member Since: 16 Jan 2012
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 872
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Good to here stories of great customer service
@BBS is this patch something that will be incorporated into a future nanocom general release of software or a one off fix for that particular problem
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| 18th Feb 2014 6:40 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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@gvw
Many thanks for your appreciation of our customer service level.
I think many will appreciate that BBS is no newbie to the development of diagnostic equipment for Land Rover Vehicles. However in the last couple of weeks we have had to delve especially deeply into the inner workings of the BCM/CJB especially to get to the very bottom of this particular problem that has clearly been shown to be one that happens regardless of what equipment is being used and so was never actually of our making at all.
What we have learned, understood and found a way to overcome is of course not something we would freely divulge that our competion would once again freely benefit from for obvious reasons.
But this will be freely incorporated into all future updates to all our products.
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